15-07-2005 02:47									#31
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The only taste you have is in your mouth.

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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Who's Phil Collins?

	15-07-2005 03:29									#34
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo My Beatles recommendations:

Only "Nowhere Man" from Rubber Soul? Are you mad?

	15-07-2005 04:43									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Dis Sure I take them over Elvis, but anything is better than Elvis.

Elvis Rules.

As for Beatles vs. Phil Collins, I will take that little drum thing in "In the Air Tonight" over anything the Beatles put out any day of the week.

	15-07-2005 12:58									#36
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Obviously the Beatles are better / more important etc. But Phil Collins is a better drummer than any of the Beatles.

	15-07-2005 13:12									#37
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Beatles. No Contest.

Definitely a very silly argument.

	15-07-2005 13:19									#38
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Phil Collins is the Mozart of the Twentieth Century.

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quote: Originally posted by bipolarbear Beatles. No Contest. Definitely a very silly argument.

yeah no contest. Phil Collins.

	15-07-2005 16:24									#40
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Whoever is backing Phil Collins suffers from profound idiocy.

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I just saw a clip from Live Aid where Sting is singing "Every Breath You Take" while playing guitar. He is accompanied only by Phil Collins on background vocals. It is funny to see Sting wince everytime Phil hits a bad note..

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joncha get rid of that huge picture

	16-07-2005 01:23									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Bkeela Whoever is backing Phil Collins suffers from profound idiocy.

The beatles music sounds very outdated.

	16-07-2005 03:38									#44
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 joncha get rid of that huge picture

Get rid of your lame-ass avatar first.

	16-07-2005 03:43									#45
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I think that if the Beatles' music played today even their less-outdated stuff (i.e. the first half of the 60's stuff), they'd have only been mildly successful, but definitely no supergroup.

Of course the counterarguement is that if the Beatles existed today they would definitely not have played the same kind of music as they did 40 years ago. Would those same 4 guys have managed to be the best band in the world facing much greater competition? Who knows.

-MZ

	16-07-2005 08:57									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen I think that if the Beatles' music played today even their less-outdated stuff (i.e. the first half of the 60's stuff), they'd have only been mildly successful, but definitely no supergroup. Of course the counterarguement is that if the Beatles existed today they would definitely not have played the same kind of music as they did 40 years ago. Would those same 4 guys have managed to be the best band in the world facing much greater competition? Who knows. -MZ

Well if the Beatles never played 40 years ago, Music might not be quite what it is today, as countless bands either cite The Beatles as an influence, or a band that does.

And their music did evolve with time, and faster than most bands around them (IMHO). They went from almost mindless pop (She loves you) to deep drug-induced lyrics and ballads and such, and some of the first hard rock.

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quote: Originally posted by Ninot And their music did evolve with time, and faster than most bands around them (IMHO). They went from almost mindless pop (She loves you) to deep drug-induced lyrics and ballads and such, and some of the first hard rock.

This is really what amazes me about them. Abbey Road was released less than 7 years after Please Please Me, their first album in the UK; I can't think of any other performer band that went that far, that fast. Of course, they released 12 albums in 7 years (I'm counting the UK originals), and nobody does that anymore, either.

	16-07-2005 09:48									#48
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Beatles

Phil Collins is a pile of poo.

	16-07-2005 10:02									#49
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Piles of poo.

	16-07-2005 10:04									#50
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I am reminded of a quote from Office Space, regarding another singer, but equally applicable:

No talent ass clown.

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The Beatles may sound outdated today, but the impact they had on popular music, their social impact, their sales and hits, and most importantly, their creativity (helped in large part by producer, George Martin) just cannot be compared the the likes of Phil Collins.

Beatles are giants of popular music, Phil Collins is a feather weight/has been.

Compare Billy Joel with Phil, or maybe Bruce Spingsteen, but The Beatles? Puhlease...

	16-07-2005 13:55									#52
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I don't think anyone doubts here that the impact the Beatles made on music and popular culture is much larger. I just prefer Collins' music, and approach to his role as a musician, both in Genesis, and in his solo career. But this lies in the realm of personal choice, and you might as well argue about which flavour of ice cream is better.

	16-07-2005 15:18									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot Friend and I are having a silly infantile debate, so I wanna see what Apolyton has to say. For whatever reason you deem valid, who was better (in their prime), The Beatles, or Phil Collins(with or without Genesis)?

Four loveable moptopped scallies who produced 'The White Album' and 'Sergeant Pepper's', or a man who looks as though he's always wearing a stocking mask over his head and appears to have constipation when singing.


And of course who gave civilization 'Sussudio'...


Phil Collins:

	18-07-2005 23:52									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot Well if the Beatles never played 40 years ago, Music might not be quite what it is today, as countless bands either cite The Beatles as an influence, or a band that does. And their music did evolve with time, and faster than most bands around them (IMHO). They went from almost mindless pop (She loves you) to deep drug-induced lyrics and ballads and such, and some of the first hard rock.

Well, Genesis started when they ended and got it where they started.
Anyway, Paul Lennon in an interview shortly before his death admitted listening to Genesis

	18-07-2005 23:54									#55
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Paul Lennon?

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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Well, Genesis started when they ended and got it where they started. Anyway, Paul Lennon in an interview shortly before his death admitted listening to Genesis

Paul Lennon, the guy who REALLY wrote all these songs

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Well spotted, Ninot! I wonder to whom Heresson could possibly be referring.

	18-07-2005 23:57									#58
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Everyone knows that Ringo Harrison had all the talent.

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quote: Four loveable moptopped scallies who produced 'The White Album' and 'Sergeant Pepper's', or a man who looks as though he's always wearing a stocking mask over his head and appears to have constipation when singing. And of course who gave civilization 'Sussudio'...

So, what's your answer?

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quote: Originally posted by Saras Paul Lennon, the guy who REALLY wrote all these songs

I've ment John Lennon, of course.