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Paddy the Scot is offline Paddy the Scot

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Damn, I've only just noticed this thread and I've missed all the action.....now the offending posts have been cleaned up and it's impossible to work out who was doing what to whom

But anyway, looks like DR is the only honourable team left in the game....now that's gotta be a surprise

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so, first thing - we are noone's vassal, at least not yet. Looking historically we were the first to struggle and as general we lost a lot in that war.

Second - my personal feelings about the Feudalism were to not accept it and attack. But Krill told me he has already sent some gold to you, so it wasn't a complete robbery Anyway I think we could renegotiate this thing when we come one day to the point for the peace treaty.

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Damn, I've only just noticed this thread and I've missed all the action.....now the offending posts have been cleaned up and it's impossible to work out who was doing what to whom

But anyway, looks like DR is the only honourable team left in the game....now that's gotta be a surprise


I don't think anyone knowing all the facts would call Euphorica dishonourable. Nor could anyone at all call Lost Boys dishonourable. Babylon has only slightly delayed in one thing promised - apparently enough to piss Paddy off, but not a significant deviation from promise until BoH made a more ... significant deviation.

But, on the bright side I'd say DR has so far acted honourably as well

Perhaps we should form an alliance of honorable teams

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But, on the bright side I'd say DR has so far acted honourably as well


Thank you snoop, you are such a gracious enemy

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On the fun side, had Paddy not pissed us off with his angry mails back in the days of the TNA, we would have sent the tech the next turn. It was already agreed upon in our team. Own goal, so to say.

However, we have never lied to anyone. Unfortunately, AM lied to us as well as Krill lied to me personally during private chats. That makes my heart sick and will take a high tribute to overcome. Itīs not foreseeable how many able Morporkians will have to be sacrificed at Inannaīs temples to counter this treacherous backstabbing.

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The Desolation Row would like to act as the peace brokers in this war-torn world of ours.

Now come on guys, please can we have peace. I mean, the Euphoricans and Babylonians have always desired peace and love and music in this world, and just as they were poised to impose it upon us all, their armies forgot to turn up and the world turned on them instead.

So come on, let's smoke the peace pipe of love and friendship and humanity

As a gesture towards peace, we are more than happy to station peace-keeping forces of Immortals in all populated areas of the globe. After all guys, you made us build them, so they need to do something or the women at home won't be safe!

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However, we have never lied to anyone. Unfortunately, AM lied to us as well as Krill lied to me personally during private chats. That makes my heart sick and will take a high tribute to overcome. Itīs not foreseeable how many able Morporkians will have to be sacrificed at Inannaīs temples to counter this treacherous backstabbing.


I feel pretty much the same. Hopefully this game ends quickly so I can start forgetting the extremely poor sportsmanship and lack of restraint displayed in these forums.

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I feel pretty much the same. Hopefully this game ends quickly so I can start forgetting the extremely poor sportsmanship and lack of restraint displayed in these forums.


I guess it's spelled "E G O"

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Take care Ljube. all the best.

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I thought we were pretty open with the fact the we were looking to be the researchers of the game. Sorry that we wanted to be paid something for it.

skrob, how can you be the "researchers of the game" if you are hoarding cash at 90% or 100%?


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Unfortunately, AM lied to us as well as Krill lied to me personally during private chats. That makes my heart sick and will take a high tribute to overcome.

Micha, you're gonna destroy AM using whose army?

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I feel pretty much the same. Hopefully this game ends quickly so I can start forgetting the extremely poor sportsmanship and lack of restraint displayed in these forums.


Yes, the behaviour of certain players has been very poor. Role playing or not, I dont like it.

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On the fun side, had Paddy not pissed us off with his angry mails back in the days of the TNA, we would have sent the tech the next turn. It was already agreed upon in our team. Own goal, so to say.

However, we have never lied to anyone. Unfortunately, AM lied to us as well as Krill lied to me personally during private chats. That makes my heart sick and will take a high tribute to overcome. Itīs not foreseeable how many able Morporkians will have to be sacrificed at Inannaīs temples to counter this treacherous backstabbing.


Blame Paddy, we sure blame him for a lot of things.

1. Trusting Babylon to send Monarchy on time, did not happen.
2. Trusting Babylon to send the units to the war they said they would.
3. Trusting Babylon to send Feudalism when we again sent Babylon a technology in advance.
4. Not allowing the Horde to march on Babylon when they lied earlier, see point one.
5. This was the final straw, asking Babylon for peace and friendship just recently.

So tell us again Micha the Righteous, how can you claim to have you "never lied"?

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Yes, the behaviour of certain players has been very poor. Role playing or not, I dont like it.


You may not like the posts here, I saw some emails sent recently that clearly related to this game. Some here need to grow up and get a life. This is a good game, whether you are winning, loosing or trash talking it up. It should not get as personal as it has been.

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Blame Paddy, we sure blame him for a lot of things.

1. Trusting Babylon to send Monarchy on time, did not happen.
2. Trusting Babylon to send the units to the war they said they would.
3. Trusting Babylon to send Feudalism when we again sent Babylon a technology in advance.
4. Not allowing the Horde to march on Babylon when they lied earlier, see point one.
5. This was the final straw, asking Babylon for peace and friendship just recently.

So tell us again Micha the Righteous, how can you claim to have you "never lied"?


Yes,I am guilty as charged in trusting Babylon time and time again

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2. Trusting Babylon to send the units to the war they said they would.


Really old chap? Interesting....for the benefit of us all, just how many units did Babylon commit to the war against us? Now the TNA is dead and buried this information is surely no longer classified, and providing this information will surely go a long way towards convincing us all how badly the Babs have lied to you

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great work, in bypassing points 1,3,4 & 5... oh, and why do we need to prove anything to anyone... they did what they did, they will leave the game for this..

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great work, in bypassing points 1,3,4 & 5... oh, and why do we need to prove anything to anyone... they did what they did, they will leave the game for this..


Of course Great Khan, you do not need to prove anything to anyone....for you are the Khan, and you have the strongest and most feared army in the world.....don't you?

On the other hand, it was the only one of the 5 points that could be quantified, so I was just curious as to the extent of that particular treachery. But if you don't want to tell us, that's ok I guess

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hahaha of course we want to tell you... now pick a number, that will do

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Ok, I pick.....5.

Hey guess what, they didn't lie!!!

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Really old chap? Interesting....for the benefit of us all, just how many units did Babylon commit to the war against us? Now the TNA is dead and buried this information is surely no longer classified, and providing this information will surely go a long way towards convincing us all how badly the Babs have lied to you



More than they sent, and a lot sooner than they arrived.

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We currently await a post from one of the many team members of Babylon, they surely know how many they committed too, and when they were sending them

On behalf of Babylon - a few troops as possible, and they will arrive as late as possible

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Unfortunately, AM lied to us as well as Krill lied to me personally during private chats. That makes my heart sick and will take a high tribute to overcome. Itīs not foreseeable how many able Morporkians will have to be sacrificed at Inannaīs temples to counter this treacherous backstabbing.


Ok, just tell us where is the temple and I'll deliver all those horsemen and war chariots to your temple. I'll do my best, however I expect some "resistance" from the locals and that's why I can't promise.

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So come on, let's smoke the peace pipe of love and friendship and humanity


hm, smoking... I guess you have the luxury "weed". Isn't it great?

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Ormuzd, you are truely a gracious General, willing to deliver an offering to Micha at the temple of his choice

Micha, how goes your boat building? I have this feeling you may be relocating a lot sooner than you had thought when you started these most amusing of posts... and if you have a unit named, I so hope that it survives, so after my lads deal with Skrobism, they can meet your in the field of battle...



as to the Luxury weed, well there certainly are benefits and joys of living in Oz

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Back to what 1889 said. All the poor sportmanship, and lies have really sucked the life out of this game. I don't mind loosing a game. Winning is nice and all, but it's the playing that is fun. Can no one in this game be trusted at their word? Say what you want Snoopy369, but it is obvious that Eu was going to cut and run with the Horde on Babylon after the DR war. Not the plan presented to us. Paddy. We gave our reasons for the delay of Fuedalism. When you protested & gave a reason to use it we were going to send it - But then the Horde declared war, asked for peace, and sent threating diplo, and declared war all with in 24 hours. Wonder why it was never sent. Krill recently spent several days lying to almost every member of our team to get Feudalism at a good price. Babylon delayed two tech transfers. I don't think the DR members have lied; and 1889 has not shown me reason to distrust him.

I am sure that internally we all had good reasons for this behavior but to the other teams these are just lies.
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Number of units deployed in DR war - 5. Number promised as a sign of our committment to the TNA - 4. The Bards knew this and were comfortable with that. This info was sent to the *horde but they having *roblems *eading and missed that info.

To the tricksey Morporkeans. We can still have peace. I never liked that cat city anyway. Just send us Feudalism after you have gotten it back from the *horde.

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you claim you post ooc

your statements on feudalism are at best. you were to send it as agreed, then your team changed the deal after the fact

same situation happened with monarchy quite a few turns before so do tell old salt

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That was an out of game occ comment on what I see in game. but if you must make it an in game comment
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Oh *eceitful & *lliteralate *horde, read slowly so you don't misanything. I did tell that Babylon delayed two techs. Both times Babylon gave good reasons and plans as to why. The first plan was to gift Monarchy to DR allowing you to hit them when they were in anarchy. But the ever raged and *razy *horde never understood that and ranted. Then we withheld (a mistake already admitted to) Feudalism to keep the tech costs high for DR so you didn't need to face the DR Pikes. But again, the *whored ranted and sent off a flurry *ateful (and in character) of diplomatic letters. Just as we were to send it - the *horde attacked our mutual ally. Babylon withheld again to sort things out. Then the *ipolar ranting started again. What was Babylon to do? Once you declared war publically you sealed the deal.

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That was an out of game occ comment on what I see in game. but if you must make it an in game comment
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Oh *eceitful & *lliteralate *horde, read slowly so you don't misanything. I did tell that Babylon delayed two techs. Both times Babylon gave good reasons and plans as to why. The first plan was to gift Monarchy to DR allowing you to hit them when they were in anarchy. But the ever raged and *razy *horde never understood that and ranted. Then we withheld (a mistake already admitted to) Feudalism to keep the tech costs high for DR so you didn't need to face the DR Pikes. But again, the *whored ranted and sent off a flurry *ateful (and in character) of diplomatic letters. Just as we were to send it - the *horde attacked our mutual ally. Babylon withheld again to sort things out. Then the *ipolar ranting started again. What was Babylon to do? Once you declared war publically you sealed the deal.



Good reasons after the fact are strill lies and broken agreements




[ooc.....] You claim elsewhere to not enjoy personal attacks, yet you persist with the *

very sad

I have asked you politely to clean your posts, yet you persist in your insults and swearing... why?

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To the tricksey Morporkeans. We can still have peace. I never liked that cat city anyway. Just send us Feudalism after you have gotten it back from the *horde.


Errrr....didn't they get it from you in the first place, for the now famous price of 30 pieces of silver/gold?

 
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