11-08-2005 12:59									#31
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder From the look of that city, it seems like wonders or special buildings replace huts and houses within the city tile itself.

Well, that's hitting the limit of "one square wide" civ concept.
I suppose that we can save some room because new specialized city concept could favour more distributed wonders building (not every wonder into the same city).

quote: Originally posted by GeoModder I wonder if that's why there are so many houses/settlements outside the city tile or if those are a separate object.

They are separate objects. They are "on main map" indicator of a worked/workable tile, IIRC.

O.T.: Getting colder: hybernation process started.

	11-08-2005 15:20									#32
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horses by a bong ???

a small wonder ?

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	11-08-2005 20:08									#33
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quote: Originally posted by hexagonian Oh crap... I still see road/railroad spam

I wonder if you can fix this by adding some maintance cost to roads/railroads

	11-08-2005 20:15									#34
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The presence of road spam in that screenshot is not an indication of it being neccessary .

	11-08-2005 20:20									#35
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No, but the AI will probably do it anyway

	11-08-2005 20:24									#36
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wouldnt work unless the AI knew about these maintenance costs and knew how to avoid massive costs by extension.

	11-08-2005 20:26									#37
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In Humanitas we decided that well, since irrigation is an improvement of that land, its common sense to believe that there will be roads there. So we decided that we will make irrigations acts as roads, this helps to unclutter the land with roads.

Of course, we thought, it would be nice if we could still see roads connecting to cities, so we made it so that you can see the MAIN road connections between all your cities.

What do people think of this idea? I still think there's enough time for Firaxis to implement something like this.

Maybe someone should open a vote thread and get some response from Firaxis.

	11-08-2005 20:30									#38
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I like it. I always thought there should be a distinction between roads and major highways. Eliminating the need for roads in local city improvements is a good idea, while your workers still have to connect cities with the larger highways.

But will this make the AI connect cities with irrigation instead of roads?

Anyway, someone should get this idea to Firaxis tout suite!

	11-08-2005 20:37									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py In Humanitas we decided that well, since irrigation is an improvement of that land, its common sense to believe that there will be roads there. So we decided that we will make irrigations acts as roads, this helps to unclutter the land with roads.

Well, I wonder how does it show, if you already tried to paint a large map with dozen cities? There are screenshots available to us, about this concept? The world landscape seems more realistic?

May I still build road without the need to irrigate the terrain, or mine it? (I'm thinking about fast unit movement far from cities, as in Civ III: maybe rules of Humanitas will make this not useful).

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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder From the look of that city, it seems like wonders or special buildings replace huts and houses within the city tile itself. I wonder if that's why there are so many houses/settlements outside the city tile or if those are a separate object.

Very good question.

	11-08-2005 21:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Solver The presence of road spam in that screenshot is not an indication of it being neccessary .

There will be railroad / road spam in Civ IV ! If I cannot cover the whole continent with star-shaped roads in each tile, I don't buy the game.

Road spam IS Civ.
Civ IS road spam.

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quote: Originally posted by ashbery No Military leaders classed as "great people".Is this sinister left wing political bias by Sid.

Damn liberals!

	13-08-2005 13:23									#44
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But, but, we got news yesterday...