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C0ckney is offline C0ckney
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spiff i'm sure the far right thought the exact same about being allied with dirty commies like you

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Despite our colorful clashes, I have found myself in steadfast agreement at various times with Kid, Che, Aggie (the Red Brigade), and GePap....a strange, but not unpleasant feeling...

-=Vel=-

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A) Thanks for Spiff for one of the only normal posts in the thread!

B) Spiff, I am more interested in the people that are of your own political affiliation, but they're DUM LOL. Those who argue with you, but their argument level makes it seem as if they're arguing against you.

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Well...I've disagreed with you, Az, on a couple times.

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We've all seen the results of that.

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We've all seen the results of that.


Yah yah yah, don't let it get to your head...

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A) Thanks for Spiff for one of the only normal posts in the thread!

B) Spiff, I am more interested in the people that are of your own political affiliation, but they're DUM LOL. Those who argue with you, but their argument level makes it seem as if they're arguing against you.

That would get me banned

Well, an anecdote. Dumbness is not exactly involved, but neither is smartness

During the referendum campaign, I was discussing with a voter who has all the bearings of a believer in the system (the pro-system people were all "Oui"). He was supportive of pretty much every economic aspect of the constitution, as he had a very capitalistic mindset. However, he was open to discussion, and there was one chance to make him change his mind by adressing how flawed the text was, from a legal perspective (extremely long and detailed, impossible to change in any meaningful way).

Another commie with whome I distributed the fliers comes mid-discussion and begins saying that the "Oui" will mean the death of our public services, that it will mean more competition and more delocalisations, etc...
Not only did that voter know full well that such statements were exagerated garbage (we agreed on such, as I had to look moderate to attempt to convince him), but he also agreed fullspeed with the phenomena that my colleague denounced. My colleague also took much time to make his horribly ordinary exposé, without letting neither him or me speak.

Useless to say, after such a long time, the voter wasn't up for continuing our previous discussion. He was also even more willing than before to vote "Oui"

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@"cunning diplomats"

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Nothing wrong with people improving their knowledge by agreeing with me

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At least they aren't cunning linguists or stunts

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At least they aren't cunnilinguists or stunts

Fixed.

I see it like this - the opinions of idiots and crackpots are essentially random; half of them are gonna be on my side on any issue no matter what.

What's worse is ending up on the same side as an articulate advocate of evil on some specific issue. I usually avenge myself by pointing out any minor logical inconsistencies in their arguments, on the pretext we ought not give out opponents any opportunities to attack us.

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Fixed.


That was his joke in the first place, Colonel Angus.

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What's worse is ending up on the same side as an articulate advocate of evil on some specific issue. I usually avenge myself by pointing out any minor logical inconsistencies in their arguments, on the pretext we ought not give out opponents any opportunities to attack us.


Yeah, I've had it, too, and it's really troublesome. What I usually do in these cases is to thoroughly bas the advocate of evil's position and ideology, to proceed and defend his position in the current debate.

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In general, when someone on my side is posting something completely absurd (a sure pwnage), I prefer to avoid the thread. Occasionally I might try to explain him how to avoid further pwnage, but only if I feel it can work.

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I am really trying to think on a non-poly case of this happening, but the last time I had such discussions was in college, and it has been three years....
You have not communicated with anyone outside of Apolyton for 3 years?!? Explains a lot.

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Leaving aside Poly, during the first Gulf War, the antiwar movement found itself frequently cringing when Nazis and LaRouchies, but I repeat myself, showed up with their banners against the war.

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Here's a story - from two anti-war marches in London prior to the 2003 Iraq invasion: My position is anti-interventionist generally rather than anti-that-war-in-particular. It is certainly not anti-Israel, as the organisers seemed to automatically assume everybody on the march was, or should be.

The first march mostly involved standing in a queue of about 2 million people on a hot September on the way to Hyde Park. Around Piccadilly Circus where the two great rivers of demonstrators met there were a gang of hotheads jumping up and down on a bus shelter, waving Palestinian flags, thumping their chests and generally doing that Big Angry number. I was p*ssed off, as I wasn't there to support that cause.

By the time we got to Hyde Park we'd missed the speakers, but on the second march a few months later there were less marchers and we got to Hyde Park in time for the speakers. However, as they were all people like Ken Livingstone and George Galloway, again we were assaulted by furious anti-Israeli invective.

Of course I didn't realise before then that the Stop The War Coalition was an alliance of the SWP and the Islamist MAB. The left think they are using the Islamists to fill the gaping hole in their own consituency, but in fact it's the other way round, and Islamists are using large sections of the Left (and even the establishment) to advance their agenda.

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Che:

Shouldn't that be anti-this war?

I've never understood antiwar commies.

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I wasn't under the impression that cort Haus was a commie

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I get so tired of having these ad hoc issues considered dividing between left and right. gets boring, esp. since there are all sorts of arguments pro and con.

I was for this war, but I'd rather have a more moral superpower, like the Soviet Union handle it.

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This thread should be renamed: The "OMFG, Why is FEZ on my side of the argument"!

* Imran Siddiqui runs from Ming

Sava is offline Sava
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well a good example of the topic is Pat Robertson...

he's against the war in Iraq...

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Hey you, don't diss the name of my party at Eventis

(FEZ - Front of Eventsian Zocialists)

BTW Az, Eventis is still waiting for that fanfic of yours

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i thought eventis is dead... the link I had in bookmarks doesn't work

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Ahh, I almost forgot! I'll finish it as soon as possible ( +VAT&Shipping&Procrastination)

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You're a shipper?

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i thought eventis is dead... the link I had in bookmarks doesn't work

http://www.eventis.ws

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I've been lurking at eventis for years now...

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Sava on eventis?

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I think we must remember that whacky allies can have their uses. They make for good cannon fodder

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Cannon fodder is bad in political debates.

 
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