25-08-2005 05:37									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx Indeed....Google confirms those suspicions. Type in "orca porn" on a google search...fifth entry down when I did...ech....*shakes head* -=Vel=-

Jewish dominance in the porn industry?

	25-08-2005 05:46									#32
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara We can have sex whenever we want, instead of having to wait for the female to be fertile.

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I think we do need to wait for the female to be fertile, and then some...

But I quess we don't have, um, "heat"...

	25-08-2005 07:01									#33
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Simple self interest. Humans are special to humans other creatures are special to other creatures. Nothing wrong with such an approach.

Also from a practical point of view we can only have in depth communication with humans and for the most part can only have communication of any kind with humans. This allows us to form various social contracts with them which we can't arrange with the other creatures we have encountered apart from making selfless one sided concessions to their interests.

In sum humans are special because we can all relate to them on an entirely different level from any other things we might try to relate to.

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	25-08-2005 07:04									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Krill We aren't special. There are bacteria that I consider more special than most of humanity.

tell me more about these special bacteria. I'm taking a refresher course in micro atm (damn taxonomy keeps getting tweaked) and to me it seems like their specialness is restricted entirely to interesting biochemical gadgets.

	25-08-2005 07:05									#35
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Maybe they're sentient, but they don't have porn

but they have universal casual sex instead.

	25-08-2005 07:07									#36
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I'd just like to state for the record how I've never been more disturbed to be correct about an assumption in my entire life as I am right now in regards to orca porn.

	25-08-2005 07:19									#38
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We're genetically coded to think humans are special.

	25-08-2005 07:51									#39
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We're the only species on record to have developed so many different types of cheese.

And we're the only ones who get sooo bored we'd even start thinking whether we're special.

	25-08-2005 07:59									#40
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What does limburger taste like?

	25-08-2005 08:03									#41
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Cheese, presumably.

	25-08-2005 08:10									#42
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They sell limburger at my supermarket. I'm slightly tempted to buy it, though I sniffed it, and it smelt rotten.

	25-08-2005 08:24									#43
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Yeah well, it sounds a bit German.

	25-08-2005 12:21									#44
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Spiders are superior to humans. They have eight legs, humans only two. Even if we count our arms in too, they're still better. Plus lots of humans are scared when they see spiders. They wouldn't be if spiders weren't a threat to us.

	25-08-2005 12:40									#45
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quote: Specialness is a value judgement. Only humans can make value judgements. Thus, humans are what make humans special.

On the practical side of things, the question "are we special, or not?" carries no importance whatsoever.

	25-08-2005 12:45									#46
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Humans are the dominant lifeform on Earth. The specialness of humanity is self-evident.

	25-08-2005 13:18									#47
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I'm sure the aliens watching Survivor: Earth think we are special.

	25-08-2005 13:42									#48
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OMG HUMANES ARE TEH STUPIFD LOL

	25-08-2005 13:47									#49
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We get to live our whole lives alternately repressing and dreading the inevitability of our own deaths.

I could do with a little less specialness, myself...

	25-08-2005 15:46									#50
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quote: So if sentience is the defining factor then why wouldn't you associate the same "special" with some of the higher fins?

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	25-08-2005 16:59									#51
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Specialness is a value judgement. Only humans can make value judgements. Thus, humans are what make humans special.

In other words, Neurosis is what makes humans special.

	25-08-2005 19:21									#52
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Surely we are special because we possess the one unlimited thing in the entire universe.

The human capacity for stupidity.

(Plenty of threads right here on Apolyton to prove my point. )

	25-08-2005 20:39									#53
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Complex language

	25-08-2005 20:46									#54
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Has anyone mentioned orca porn yet?

	25-08-2005 21:49									#55
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Absolutely nothing - at least animals can be excused for their primitive behaviour...

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quote: Originally posted by Odin Complex language

bah...

I don't see how our verbal language is any more special than dolphin language or whale songs or nonverbal communication of cats (for instance)...

ahhh yes... human language is special...


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	25-08-2005 21:58									#57
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Sympathy, remorse, angst, brooding, etc... all those "self aware" things that make humans so unbarable... that is what makes us special... that and the fact that we don't all fling our poo like Monkeys!

	25-08-2005 21:59									#58
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speak for yourself

JM

	25-08-2005 23:19									#59
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The difference between humans and other animals is that human beings have documents.

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quote: Originally posted by Japher Sympathy, remorse, angst, brooding, etc... all those "self aware" things that make humans so unbarable... that is what makes us special... that and the fact that we don't all fling our poo like Monkeys!

how do you know animals don't experience those feelings?