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looting is looting no matter whats taken 14 17.28%
its ok if its food or water and your situation is desperate 61 75.31%
i don't know 1 1.23%
banana... well someone will complain if theres is no banana option 5 6.17%
Total: 81 voters 100%
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Agathon is offline Agathon
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Why are you wasting time on Rabbinc law that nobody but you gives a **** about LOTM?

I mean the first thing I always consider is what the local rabbi would think.....

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I brought it up, that's why.

Why do you have to be such a prik? Comrades need to act with a certain level of decorum.

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Because it's as dumb as bringing up a Catholic perspective on this. There are enough problems with this without bringing up boring theological debates...

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See the 4th post in this thread.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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Why are you wasting time on Rabbinc law that nobody but you gives a **** about LOTM?


It's actually pretty interesting.

Winston is offline Winston
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I agree.

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Yes, most owners run. Which is why your suggestion that the folks taking stuff from stores might be owners is even sillier.


I am not suggesting anything. I just think your idea of shooting or going around arresting people who take stuff from stores on the moment is ****ing silly.

Dis is offline Dis
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how many times must I see that same picture and comments?

and I would prefer a version that doesn't screw up the page.

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Hey Vet Legion, why don't you take that sh!t that we've all seen off so that the formatting of this page isn't so screwed up?

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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There's the strawman right there.


I never claimed looting was "honorable," so no, you're still the strawmanner.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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You don't have anything personal that you would rather see destroyed then stolen?


As Kuci notes, anything of such personal value would most likely be of no value to a looter and wouldn't be stolen anyway.

Otherwise, if my tv/computer/stereo/bike/car/etc. would be destroyed if not stolen, I could care less which happens. Either way, I won't have it any more. Only a pretty person would be concerned over it, particularly given circumstances like what's happening in New Orleans.

lord of the mark is offline lord of the mark
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what was particularly interesting about the Jewish law citations, is that it turns out that Jewish law is actually a tad further "left" than my own intuitive position (thats what comes from spending more time studying economics than halacha) It raises the speficic question of abandoned property. It also raises the question of someone who DOES salvage property on behalf of the owner, having a rightful claim for wages, which is an interesting concept, showing at the same time a concern for property, and yet a very strong concern for the rights of workers.

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I never claimed looting was "honorable," so no, you're still the strawmanner.
Oh please. Spare me the back tracks. You clearly believed that the people calling looting what it was were being self-righteous folk for daring to 'pontificate on the right and wrong behavior of desperate people who are trapped in a disaster zone'. Hell you even denied that they were looting things other than food.

Winston is offline Winston
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Only good and decent people with the best of intentions should be allowed to loot and pillage. The others are just causing trouble and giving looting a bad name.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Oh please. Spare me the back tracks. You clearly believed that the people calling looting what it was were being self-righteous folk for daring to 'pontificate on the right and wrong behavior of desperate people who are trapped in a disaster zone'.


Yeah, and how is that calling looting "honorable?" You can spare me your own blusterings, because you're just making up intentions that aren't there. I was referring to those who were saying that looting was looting and ergo wrong under every circumstance. I believe that to be a stupid and insensitive generalization, as I think looting essential supplies isn't wrong in extreme circumstances. That doesn't mean it's honorable or dishonorable, it's just a fact of survival at that point.

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Hell you even denied that they were looting things other than food.




No, I said the footage I had seen on CNN at that point was all of people taking essential supplies--meaning that I didn't see the looting of luxuries as widespread. That was 4 days ago, and the more pernicious looting didn't start becoming a real problem until later. So I was right on that, too.

Care to make it 0 for 3 with another wrong claim, DD?

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Only good and decent people with the best of intentions should be allowed to loot and pillage. The others are just causing trouble and giving looting a bad name.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Deja vu. Haven't I seen that picture somewhere before?

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Dunno. I kinda just hopped into this.

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Is it some kind of challenge to see how many times the same thing can be posted?

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That woman in the first picture look more like a mulatto (sp?) to me

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USA today reported some guy was using his truck to pick up people in neighbordhoods. Then some thugs carjacked it at knifepoint, presumably to use it for looting.


Id say thats a BAD thing. Can we agree?

Japher is offline Japher
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must of been black

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That woman definetly looks Hispanic to me.

Of course, don't let that get in the way of your trolling.

Winston is offline Winston
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Yeah I pointed that out earlier, and also inquired as to the role of the Chinese in all of this.

And why aren't they showing any pictures of Icelanders finding groceries.

Sava is offline Sava
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That woman definetly looks Hispanic to me.

Of course, don't let that get in the way of your trolling.
pretty pale for a hispanic

but I love how you can tell someone's ethnicity based upon a zoomed out low resolution photograph


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but I love how you can tell someone's ethnicity based upon a zoomed out low resolution photograph


Well, you (and about 12 others at the last count) started it.

Sava is offline Sava
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Well, you (and about 12 others at the last count) started it.
well to reasonable people, that woman is clearly caucasian...

she does not look hispanic at all

 
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