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Drogue is offline Drogue
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Clarke would be great, but if I were a Tory I'd probably be rooting for Liam Fox. He's hardline enough not to split to party - to be a proper tory - yet his roots as a GP makes him personable and charismatic. He's young enough to be vibrant but has a list of high powered roles in government. He's a better, younger, more electable, more charismatic and slightly less right wing version of David Davis.

I'll celebrate if Clarke gets in. And possibly end up with 3 parties I'd consider voting for

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The Tories need a new man to lead them forward!



Bloody hell. He's actually starting to look like a Tory now, isn't he?

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He'll raise his public image.


no, it's profile.

and btw well done for bringing this important issue to light

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Clarke would be great, but if I were a Tory I'd probably be rooting for Liam Fox. He's hardline enough not to split to party - to be a proper tory - yet his roots as a GP makes him personable and charismatic. He's young enough to be vibrant but has a list of high powered roles in government. He's a better, younger, more electable, more charismatic and slightly less right wing version of David Davis.



He's reactionary NIMBY ****pig.

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Gonna stick my neck out. If the tories choose anyone other than Ken Clarke they're completely screwed.

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We know that in terms of winning an election, but this is the Tories we're talking about...they're probably about to walk off a cliff

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Worst of all for the Tories, does anyone think that people just entering politics now, with the kind of views held by Ken are joining the Tories? Of course not.

If they don't get out of being a bunch of fools, spouting an unpopular message soon, they'll find themselves having no normal people in the party at all.

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Bloody hell. He's actually starting to look like a Tory now, isn't he?


I know, that's what I thought when I saw it...scary or what?

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I think they're hoping that if we get enough terrorist attacks on Britain, getting in a right-wing hard man might reassure people.

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quote:
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The Tories need a new man to lead them forward!


Is that the guy who posts at Apolyton? What was his nickname?

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Toryboy.

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I think they're hoping that if we get enough terrorist attacks on Britain, getting in a right-wing hard man might reassure people.


clearly.

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I hate to say it, but the Tories are irrelevant. They have no idea of how to run a modern society or economy, and they are tired and old.

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Funnily enough, they showed Jon Ronson's documentary on Omar Bakri Mohammed again on Channel 4 last night, and Ronson went to Torquay to interview Tory adulterer Rupert Allason (before he lost his seat):

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As we drove to the garden party, it crossed my mind that perhaps Rupert and Omar were not as unalike as they imagined. For instance, both were opposed to gay and lesbian rights and both were vigorously in favor of the death penalty. But Rupert considered my thesis to be fanciful and inaccurate.

"I believe," he said, "that every man is entitled to a fair trial. If he is convicted, he would be taken to a lawful place of execution where he'd be put down in the most humane method known to science, either by hanging or by lethal injection. Whereas Omar Bakri believes in dragging someone to the nearest square and stoning him to death in a manner I consider to be not only barbaric, but also wholly uncivilized."



http://www.powells.com/biblio?show=...98&page=excerpt


What was also amusing was what looked like a collection of sun dried crocodile skin surmounted by bleached iron wool, but was in fact a Tory woman of a certain age who expressed her fondness for capital punishment and bringing back the birch.

No resemblance whatsoever to Omar Bakri Mohammed there then.


If only the Tories could stop some of their M.P.s ******** adulterously or being discovered dead, cross dressed with fruit in mouth, then they could embrace a version of Islam and rebrand themselves.


Certainly hanging and flogging would go down well with less moderate Muslims, and people would probably pay to see Ann Widdecombe in a burqa.

Naked Widde-flesh, eurgh:

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seeing as both molly and agathon have dismissed them, i think it's safe to say that we can all look forward to a tory government after the next election.

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seeing as both molly and agathon have dismissed them, i think we can all look forward to a tory government after the next election.



Wow.


That Oscar Wilde summer school sure paid off.

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that's ok molly, i'll let you reply again when you'e thought of a decent come back.

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that's ok molly, i'll let you reply again when you'e thought of a decent come back.



No, you first. Everyone has to begin somewhere, so now's your chance.

By the way, where did I

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I've simply suggested a way they could garner some more support from people who share some of their ideas on capital and corporal punishment.

That's a rebranding suggestion, not a dismissal.

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nah labour has got a lot of the muslim vote sewn up already, whether they like it or not.

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Mr Mawrey had heard petitions lodged against six Labour councillors, who all strenuously deny that they abused the postal ballot system

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I hate to say it, but Molly does actually have a point here, and not just on the fringes of party and faith. I've read comments on a Tory blog saying they would rather people were Muslim than atheist, and a Spectator article sided with Muslims 'exasperated' at western depravity and decadence.

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I hate to say it...
why?

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Gervaise Brooke-Hampster appears to be mounting an impressive grassroots push for the leadership. Fresh off winning the "Upperclass Twit of the Year" award, he could be a dark horse in this election battle..

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I hate to say it, but the Tories are irrelevant. They have no idea of how to run a modern society or economy
When did that stop anyone from getting elected?



Kenneth Clarke looks like a dead codfish. Maybe he should start fishing for votes in the North Sea?

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Davis and Cameron are pooh-poohing suggestions that Clarke would be the popular choice with the wider electorate (and we all laughed).

Clarke is trying to convince people that he isn't really pro-Europe (and we all laughed).

Rifkind is attempting to inject some momentum into his bid by embarking on a nationwide tour (and we all laughed).

Fox is snapping up all the spin doctors he can find to run his campaign (and we all retched).

Meanwhile, Michael Ashcroft is among the Tory grandees criticising the proposed selections scheme for being undemocratic. This places him squarely at odds with Michael Howard. They're splitting again.

Latest betting: David Davis 8/13, Ken Clarke 5/2, David Cameron 11/2, Liam Fox 20/1, Malcolm Rifkind 33/1

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I hate to say it, but Molly does actually have a point here, and not just on the fringes of party and faith. I've read comments on a Tory blog saying they would rather people were Muslim than atheist,


why is that so terrible? Id say from the point of view of the Jewish religion, for ex, it would be true that gentiles should be muslims rather than atheists.

Muslim != terrorist. Or even terrorist sympathizer, necessarily.

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I would prefer people to be muslim or jewish over most other religions...

(in my opinion, broadly, the ammount of truth goes like this:
Adventist (still not all that great, but number one so far)
Other Protestants...
Catholics/Weird 'Protestants' (like Mormons) (Weird Protestants might be lower)
Jews
Muslims
getting pretty unknown down here.. I think I would rate religions like Bhuddism and the like as higher..
down at the bottom would be ones like the ancient Egyptian religions and the like)

JM

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You made the baby Osiris cry.

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Classis Apolyton.

From the relative merits and odds of Tory leadership candidates to 'which religion has the most truth' in only two posts

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"Tory merits" and "religious truth" are joined in oxymoronicity.

 
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