22-09-2005 04:18									#61
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how big of list do you want?

just a few thoughts:
fastest to reach each time period?
fastest to 100k
best team play
shortest game

	22-09-2005 15:26									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Just for my curiosity, who here is interested in helping with the AI mod?

i'm definately going to be tweaking around more sooner than later. but first i'll try vanilla. i ruined my first months of civ3 because i modded too early on.
now i'll want to know the game mechanics before i go "fixing" (more likely worsening) stuff.

but in regarding AI mod: there will probably be many mods in the future "creation" forum. some will make barbarians tough as hell, others will make the AI more effective in attacks and again others will probably optimise the AI value system in direction of builder/warmonger/whatever

i remember in ptw having the koreans be powerful in most of the games (good builder traits) but they were always crushed easily when i used high AI aggression mods.

so what i'm saying: let's not be too premature with an official mod. in the ideal case the out-of-the-box version (or at least after the first 2 patches) is perfect already

	22-09-2005 19:56									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex how big of list do you want? just a few thoughts: fastest to reach each time period? fastest to 100k best team play shortest game

The basic list:

Best/fastes of each of the victory types.

Then the more fun list, which is debatable, could include lots of things:

Biggest backstab/Best ROP rape
most bloodthirsty
most thematic
Best written
Best city
Best single use of UU
who knows...

	22-09-2005 21:03									#64
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf let's not be too premature with an official mod. in the ideal case the out-of-the-box version (or at least after the first 2 patches) is perfect already

Civ4 may be more balanced out of the box than Civ3 (at least Firaxis hired far more beta testers), but I'm sure that the people here at Apolyton will generate a lot of ideas how to tweak the game to make it still better. In my ideal case, some of those tweaks will make it back into the stock version of the game via patches or expansions. C3C adopted about a dozen changes that had been incorporated before in the AU mod version of PtW (e.g zero-range bombardment ability for archers).