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DaShi is offline DaShi
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Calling people trolls who you disagree with. This is what you're reduced to. I blame myself. I've exposed all your other tricks, you've nothing left. I suppose that it was foolhardy to believe that you would turn to honest debating. :sigh:

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Right I'm still looking for the answer about the troll part.

I stated clearly that the rightwing thugs are not any better. And that they have accomplished much stupid things. However, rightwing thugs don't often come to leftist marches, trying to disrupt them, well I guess it happens every now and then but I'd say it's rare. That is, to pick a fight. When rightwing nutters march, there WILL be leftists and there WILL be violence.

What I'm saying is, if you want to be better than neonazis and fascists, it should show on the record.

ANd I do realize that most leftist protestors don't participate in these actions. But this is .. part excuse part OK from the leftist side. To make it more simple, you don't take this seriously. Here you guys are calling me a troll.

So what if the cops and small businesses are against women and children. Coming up with scnearios like that isn't going to help your arguments. What if the children were against women? WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON!?!

When I say I'm not part of rightwing or leftwing thuggery or politics, rightwing calls me leftist and vice versa, and you call me liar or.. 'yeah it's easy to be judgemental and not participate'!!++1 yeah.. that into my head translates it's easy to not be an idiot.

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quote:
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Calling people trolls who you disagree with.


Nice broad strokes of demonisation.

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This is what you're reduced to. I blame myself. I've exposed all your other tricks, you've nothing left.


As I said, AH >> Pekka >> DaShi

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I suppose that it was foolhardy to believe that you would turn to honest debating. :sigh:




At least I have a few honest debates under my name. The same cannot be said about you.

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When rightwing nutters march, there WILL be leftists and there WILL be violence.


This is the kind of statements that flamebaiters use: very broad, very generalised. Even if you didn't mean to troll, saying things like this makes people think you did.

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Hey if FACTS disturb you, go back to sleep!

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Nice broad strokes of demonisation.


I seem to have the evidence to back it up. Look below.

quote:

As I said, AH >> Pekka >> DaShi


quote:



At least I have a few honest debates under my name. The same cannot be said about you.


But you haven't. You use logical flaws and other tricks to push your argument. If you're not doing that, you're throwing insults at people you disagree with. I've called you on it on several occasions. After all this, you then go on a "feel good campaign" trying to suck up to other posters to improve your image, yet clueless that they're ignoring you.

In the end, all you're left with are the above quotes: an absurd response that doesn't address the issue, an attempt to discredit your opponents by calling them trolls, and finally baseless accusations and insults. All with the classic , badge of the losing argument. At least, my responses are grounded in reality, which is why you've been forced to abandon so many threads I and other's have challenged you in.

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Hey if FACTS disturb you, go back to sleep!


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This is the kind of statements that flamebaiters use: very broad, very generalised. Even if you didn't mean to troll, saying things like this makes people think you did.


You mean like certain one line responses to other people's posts?

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Woot! Called it! Booyah!

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UR PWNED!!!!

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I seem to have the evidence to back it up. Look below.


"Seem" is the operative word here.

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But you haven't. You use logical flaws and other tricks to push your argument. If you're not doing that, you're throwing insults at people you disagree with. I've called you on it on several occasions. After all this, you then go on a "feel good campaign" trying to suck up to other posters to improve your image, yet clueless that they're ignoring you.

In the end, all you're left with are the above quotes: an absurd response that doesn't address the issue, an attempt to discredit your opponents by calling them trolls, and finally baseless accusations and insults. All with the classic , badge of the losing argument. At least, my responses are grounded in reality, which is why you've been forced to abandon so many threads I and other's have challenged you in.


Quoted with out response as a sample of DaShi's, um, "challenges" that he keeps bragging about.

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well to be honest you haven't provided any counter arguments.

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"Seem" is the operative word here.


This is not an argument. :sigh: Nor does it counter the evidence I've provided in this very thread. Serious question: Do you really think that it does?


quote:

Quoted with out response as a sample of DaShi's, um, "challenges" that he keeps bragging about.


More for the pile, I suppose. How about we finish that little discussion about the Dalai Llama? That's still unfinished. Or maybe the discussion of your laughable line of reasoning in the Singapore thread? Where did you go on that one? The robotics thread isn't too far down the list, why not continue that one? You suddenly vanished in the Geodel's thread. Strange, you were really into that one for awhile, why leave it unfinished?

I can understand why you avoided responding to my last post. You can't. These little tricks are all you have. I keep trying to force you to pull out something substancial, but this is all that comes out. Another serious question: Do you think these kinds of responses are clever?

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well to be honest you haven't provided any counter arguments.


He can't. I've been trying for years to goad some out of him.

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Maybe he is hermafrodite?

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DaShi, your trolling attempts here are extremely pathetic. The only thing more pathetic is that my comrade deigned to respond.

As far as Pekka is concerned, this thread was such an obvious troll that I hadn't bothered to respond before now.

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come on che.. you aren't being rude enough yet.. listen to some rage against the machine and come back blasting through anyone who dares to disagree with your sissie politics.

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Ok, now you've lost me?

x-post, this is in reponse to Pekka's "hermafrodite" post.

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DaShi, your trolling attempts here are extremely pathetic. The only thing more pathetic is that my comrade deigned to respond.


It's not a troll. It's an attempt to point out the abuse that is spewed out by this poster against people he disagrees with. I, myself, have had my threads tagged with "He's a troll" responses by UR. Hardly the behavior of a mod. I don't believe that anyone should tolerate it. And I've been quite cordial and simply pointing out his errors. He's the one who is attacking in response. However, tell me, will you be there to defend him, when he does it again?

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Mods are allowed to have opinions. Get over it. Just cuz you don't like UR doesn't mean that you don't deliberately go out of your way to bait him. Frankly, I think he's shown considerable restraint given the abuse heaped upon him by you, Asher, and others. MtG woulda banned your ass long before now, and you really don't want Ming mad at you. Ask Kuci, the other mods can be considerably less forgiving.

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So that explains how he can go on in this thread as well without a single argument, and that somehow proves I am troll, Dashi is trolling etc.. Dashi pointed out flaws in URs strategy of debating, and now you are attacking Dashi for it.

It's facts man.. just facts.



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Yes, and this forum is designed to allow people to have their opinions challenged. This is the crux of debate. Actually, I do show some restraint with UR. But there's so much blatant. . .well bullshit that I can't just let it go. As I've said, I'd love for UR to actually debate an issue. But no matter what topic I challenge him on, he responds like has in this thread. No logic, rarely addressing the issue, and often laced with insults. You can see why I'm annoyed. I can speak from experience that if I heaped abuse on MtG or Ming, they would either send me a polite pm or email discussing the situation in polite terms. I've always respected them for that.

Che, I do respect you, even if I don't always agree with you. And sometimes you seems to come out from the far end of the looney bin, IMO. So I don't see how you can support UR's behavior, even if he labels himself a communist. If I do the same, will I have your backing, even if I'm wrong? I certainly hope not. In fact, if you can point out the primary and fatal error in my argument with UR in this thread, I'll happily concede the trolling point to you.

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A quick example:

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You are in trouble if you think he's batty.


Che, this is the part that get a bit annoying. I suppose, it's just my nature to try to protect people from bullies. Maybe it's making me a bully as well as I may be reacting too knee-jerk to it. But come on. That's just annyoing.

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So that explains how he can go on in this thread as well without a single argument,


What's to argue, Pekka? You only do two types of threads: look at me! and let's bait the commies. Since this isn't about you, it is, therefore, logically, the other.

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Che is just pissed off when someone points out the failures of anyone I'm debating. He has grudges against me for my people murdering his invading comrades, so he can never forgive me being the free person I am today. Che is a bully. If it wasn't me in this thread, he wouldn't attack you Dashi now at all...

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What's to argue, Pekka? You only do two types of threads: look at me! and let's bait the commies. Since this isn't about you, it is, therefore, logically, the other.


Don't you love 'em!

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che, that's pretty good assumption! Usually you woudl be right on that, but now we are not attacking commies.

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DaShi, do you get in this much of a tizzy with Dinodoc? I know Ted seems to, but why not just let it go?

 
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