07-06-1999 09:22									#31
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i second that, MoSe.
Darkstar, please stay !!

You seem to be one kick ass player. How could we possibly replace you. CousLee ? Scary thought. (closely watching his Weizen performance )

The PBEM code is more than sketchy. I still hope Firaxis will manage to fix the blatant bugs in the next patch, and will continue playing even if they don't. For me there is simply no alternative. In SP the computer is just too stoooopid to pose even the slightest challenge, MP-IP-games are not for me - death by micromanagement. I don't expect anyone to wait for my turn completions, and time limits are completely out of the question.

Flo

	07-06-1999 10:52									#32
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As I said, I am willing to suffer through until MoSe can find a replacement for me. I like SMAC quite a lot, but the PBEM code segment leaves my system so messed up I have to reboot my system EVERY TIME I "Save and Exit", after playing just one turn. No other game so totally screws things up on my system (currently ). But then, none but DOS and early Win95 games so screw my display either. That tells me loads of info.

But I won't ever play another PBEM until Brian Reynolds sends me a personalized letter informing me that the code is fixed (so I have something to look at and laugh when it continues as it had) or I get so desperate to play an intelligent opponent in SMAC that I give up my soap box. I don't think the former is going to happen, and it takes a long time for me to get off a soap box sometimes, especially when I find something so unacceptable. I know its out of popularity to believe users and customers deserve a quality product but that is just the way I am.

-Darkstar

	07-06-1999 12:07									#33
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Darkstar,

I respect your decision, but on my old PC - and except for small bugs (more like glitches), I have rarely experienced severe crashes. Maybe your machine is too new... Yes, that's it. I think we should swap ! You get my P100 and I get your screamer

Anyway, it will be sad to see you go. If you ever change your mind about PBEM, be sure to send me a note, because I'd still love to play a game with/against you !

About replacement: I'm not sure cousLee would like to play the Pain Killers, that would be heresy You might want to ask Tfs, or Nell (Unless they are already involved in Erewhon's twin brother game... Mario ?)

Aredhran

	07-06-1999 17:57									#34
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"bigvax" says it all. Finally the popserver decided to provide again this morning, so the bloated CEO can now take his turn.

P.S.: can anyone suggest a fast internet mail service like @yahoo. Definite no's or yes ?
Time for a change. I realy hat letting people wait, grrr@%*

	07-06-1999 18:26									#35
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....and typos are even worse. It's "really hate", for col

Flo, the keyboardly challenged

	08-06-1999 09:19									#36
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Flo, according to Damien, never use usa.net.
My young colleague uses it and claims he has no problems with it. Further inquired, he added: "Yes, it's never stuck for more that 24 hours...", go figure

cousLee is already in Newhon1, and I hadn't the time to directly ask to Nell or Ted, that Animus and Mongoose applied for it (in that order).

I promised it to Animus, speak now or be quiet forever. I checked only later their availability, an even if Mongoose may claim he's more present, I guess all we require from Animus is that he couples with Lord Zod (jimmytrick) in sending the turn b4 the Lord lays... erm... retires himself in his rooms with Deirdre.

So Aredhran, unless we see a sudden U-turn from Darkstar ("HEY! you guys can't see a joke? you did take it seriously? I had a glimpse of my PBEMless future days, <shiver> couldn't stand the thought...), please send the turn to Animus, dr.animus@excite.com, and forward it for one turn to me and Darkstar too.
I'll send our new challenger all necessary PW and infos.

CMN Ace

	08-06-1999 01:02									#37
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Turn sent to Darkstar and the CMN...

	08-06-1999 19:02									#38
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'The PeaceKeepers, after a time of internal turmoil, have elected a new leader.'

Greetings Fellow Faction Leaders,

I, Brother Dr. Animus, extend a hand in peace and seek a cooperative and
fruitful coexsistence with the leaders of Planet's ruling factions.

Please feel free to contact me for
commerce and technology trade.

Animus out.


Turn sent to Gaians and CMN.

Looks like I have a little catching up
to do.

-david

	08-06-1999 20:07									#39
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Animus,

In regard to your post, are you aware of contact restrictions? If not please e-mail MariOne or Aredhran for specifics.

jimmytrick

ps: good to have you!

	09-06-1999 09:30									#40
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Turn Complete

	09-06-1999 09:40									#41
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My apologies.

I thought I read it somewhere that communication before contact was permitted. After a reread of game rules, I have reached the conclusion that I am delusional.

I misunderstood,

"MP allows diplomacy between human players even if no first contact was made."

While overlooking,

"Make "in-game" contact before using diplomacy with that faction."

I retract my communique.

-Animus

	09-06-1999 18:53									#42
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turn 2149 to Aredhran and MoSe

	10-06-1999 01:39									#43
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Turn sent to Brother Animus...

Who should thing about changing the nameplate on his office door, it still reads "Brother Darkstar"...

(In case you don't know, go in Network, Customize faction)

Aredhran

	10-06-1999 03:22									#44
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Turn sent to Gaians and CMN.

Aredhran, thanks. I didn't know
you could change the name after
it's been set already.

-animus

	10-06-1999 07:01									#45
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Turn Complete

	10-06-1999 07:01									#46
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Turn Complete

	10-06-1999 08:07									#47
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Damien has the ball

	11-06-1999 02:26									#48
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Turn sent to Animus.

Fat CEO
-happily reporting he finally founded his third base -

	11-06-1999 09:04									#49
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turn sent to Aredhran.

Chairman Flomeise unhappily reports the loss of the first base to indigenous lifeforms.

The location of the new HQ has yet to be determined.

	11-06-1999 09:56									#50
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[This message has been edited by jimmytrick (edited June 11, 1999).]

	11-06-1999 09:59									#51
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Oh Flo, I was trying to make a sad face, really I was

	11-06-1999 10:00									#52
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There. I hope that makes you feel better!



SMAC ON!

[This message has been edited by jimmytrick (edited June 11, 1999).]

	11-06-1999 18:26									#53
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the new HQ will be much nicer and shinier. Bigger living caves, too: 10'*10' insted of 8'*8'

	11-06-1999 18:40									#54
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Oops. I forgot to post.

Turn sent to Gaians and CMN.

Animus.

with cave envy.

	11-06-1999 18:47									#55
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Oops. I forgot to post.

Turn sent to Gaians and CMN.

Animus.

with cave envy.

	13-06-1999 01:27									#56
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Who has the ball? Last turn I had was MY 2151 sent to Flo on 6-10-99, 11:42pm my time.

Unless I am totally confused in which case someone please let me know?

	13-06-1999 04:19									#57
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Flo?
Aredhran? (drunk again...? aredrunk )
Animus?

	13-06-1999 23:05									#58
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According to Flo, our good buddy Aredhran has the ball.

I think he got mad at me because I called him a damn swiss goat and accused him of stealing an idea about a PBEM game.

Imagine that!

	14-06-1999 14:46									#59
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Jimmy, just because you live down Tobacco Road does not mean we herded goats together...

Now, Flo if you could please resend that turn, because I have never received it.

Thanks,
Aredhran
-who is no goddamned Swiss goat, I'm telling you for the last time-

	14-06-1999 14:48									#60
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Jimmy, I forgot :

And, btw, your idea turns out to be a resource hog. Each turn through the 7 factions takes at least 20-25 minutes, and that's without too much micromanagement