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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:13
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Radagast,
The answer is no. That's what we agreed upon at the time of creating the ratings system, about a half year ago, and so, you'll get a rating of Librarian, which equals 18 points.
However, on rare ocasions we make amnesties. This doesn't happen more often than once in 3 months, but someday there might be a vacation letting improve you your rating this way.
Hutak,
We're waiting on you. Email and difficulty?
Everyone except Twister,
Mail me your passwords.
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Radagast
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If everyone else thinks so, Solver can play. But wasn't the whole point of this exercise in confusion that it be for newbies?
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Radagast
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Re: Tech stag
Looks like this is coming up again, so since I'm an academic (in-game and in R/L) I can't keep my mouth shut (nothing personal  ).
For the record, Twister and I have expressed "difficulty" with this. Hutak argued for it. SamIAm seems to have agreed without saying much, and SITS seems amibivalent.
I'm with Twister: I understand Midnight's argument about rushing the tech tree, and this has happened to me, playing Librarian and lower. Of course, by mid-game on those I am usually dominating the AI. But in the transcend game that I am playing, I have been stuck with Chaos guns for a while (discoveries about 9 turns, but getting faster). Two points:
1. Against good AI and/or Human players, no one will be able to sit back and comfortably research like crazy.
2. Even if we DO get midnight's problem, there is still a strategic dilemma to be solved by the player. Do you start building the Chaos Marines right away (and perhaps get Tachyon guns right after the first Marines come out), or do you stay happy with Missle guns for a few more turns? Of course, then you cannot start the Tachyon Marines till you get the tech, whereas if you had begun the Chaos Marines, you'd have a few good units just coming out when you were discovering Tachyon guns. And if you are in a tight spot, those one or two Chaos Marine units might make a big difference.
Anyway, I'm more or less arguing for the sake of argument. If Hutak has found that this occurs often in PBEM games as well as vs. the puter, then I can't argue (at least not on ground #1).
You guys probably think that I'm setting up my persona for the game as the argumentative professor. If only you knew me in R/L!
One thing: some of the rules Midnight/Hutak set up earlier had to do with diplomacy. I don't yet understand how this works in MP games--I assume that the main point is that Pacts and Treaties influence trade. But why do I have to declare Vendetta before using Probe teams? If I'm that untrustworthy, then my reputation for being a sneaky S.O.B. will get around. And if my probe team is good enuf for me to make my opponent think that someone else did it, all the better for my elite intelligence agency!! (of course, there is always the increased risk...) I don't suggest that we change the rules, I just want to know how diplomacy works in MP (I'm assuming people don't get mad at you because of your economic and political views, for example). Maybe the best way is just to play and find out!
Also, what is "Look First"?
Also, concerning communication:
I assume that once we have contacted someone in the game, we can freely exchange emails/ICQ/etc. with them outside of the game.
Thanks for putting up with last minute questions!
-Rad
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Radagast
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Twister:
Thanks, but doesn't one see the probe team coming toward one's base? And isn't there still the chance of the team getting caught, or on the other hand, blaming the action on someone else? As I said, I haven't played MP yet, so maybe I just need to wait and see, and then I'm sure it will be "Alles Klar!"
BTW: to whomever I will be emailing my turn to. Present technical difficulties MAY (not sure yet) preclude me from zipping files. I know that I can unzip for sure, but right now zipping is iffy. Hopefully it will work; I apologize in advance if it doesn't.
Maybe if everyone chips in you can all help me buy a new 'puter?
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Hutak
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Escaped AI Message-Bot
Apr 2001
time: 05:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver on 05-03-2001 12:25 PM
then we gotta wait or start without him.
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I suggest instead that we don't panic, and scrolling a little back up, see that Hutak last post was yesterday, so that it might not be so unreasonable to think that, since I'm may not be refreshing this board 24/7, I might never-the-less post something today.
Having said that, it seems that Solver has become our moderator? Ok I guess. What does a moderator do, anyway? Am I still creating the game, or is Solver doing it?
One last thing before we start, since we've always proceded in a democratic fashion, and since Twister changed is stance on the matter, making the vote 2-3 against Tech Stag, we'll be playing without it. Not that I particulary like it, but hey, I'm not the boss!
Ragadast: about vendetta and probes teams. Remember when playing in single player, sometimes the AI would send probe teams in your cities, even if you had a truce or a treaty (or even a pact!!)? Remember that little window that pop-ups asking you if you wished to let the whole thing go or if you wanted instead to cancel your treaties and declare vendetta? Well, in multiplayer, when you send one of your own probe teams against another player, that windows pop-up during your own turn, not the turn of the player who was the victim of the probe team attack. Since you're then basicaly asked to make a decision for the other player, the rule is that you have to declare vendetta, unless there was a previous agreement between you two. Otherwise, the other player would never find out that one of his cities was probed.
Hoping we can get started soon,
-Hutak
[This message has been edited by Hutak (edited May 03, 2001).]
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:13
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Hutak,
You don't agree to the rules. You don't like me being the moderator here. Did my email contain at least one offensive word to you? I just asked you to look at this thread.
You started getting these youngbloods into a PBEM game, but you didn't finish it, so I came, to let them play in a PBEM game. And now, just because I did work to let them play, you're insulting me. I don't want to see my efforts undone.
Hutak, please forget this, state your highest AI level beaten, and play with the others. But I don't want to see crude words here, and I don't want to be insulted. I don't tolerate insults.
Why need a moderator? Not because the game is rated. Someone to supervise the game and store the passwords, it's simpler. And looks like you are now all going to hate me, after this.
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02-05-2001 20:18
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), and will email him. Perhaps he's out of town or something, then we gotta wait or start without him.
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