25-01-2001 16:10									#32
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Well reasoned letters to your favourite gaming magazines would indeed be a good way to go. You stand a reasonable chance of getting published and there is nothing more likely to get the management to sit up and take notice than seeing their name being politely disparaged in print. Unlike letters to them personally it reaches a much larger audience. Occasionally it has provoked renewed support for a product but frankly I think CtP2 simply did not shift enough units for this to be likely.

	28-01-2001 10:57									#33
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Here are all the games that Activison puts out (the list is from their website).


Sega Dreamcast

Blue Stinger DC
Buzz Lightyear DC
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX Dreamcast
Vigilante 8: Second Offense DC
Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram


GameBoy

Blade GBC
Buzz Lightyear GBC
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX Game Boy Color
Road Champs: BXS Stunt Biking
Space Invaders GBC
Spider-Man GBC
Tarzan GB
X Men: Mutant Wars GBC
X-Men: Mutant Academy GBC


Mac

MechWarrior 2 Mac
Quake II Mac
Quake III Arena Mac
Shanghai: Dynasty Mac
Shanghai: Mah-Jongg Essentials Mac
Shanghai: Second Dynasty Mac


Nintendo 64

A Bug's Life N64
Quake II N64
Space Invaders N64
Spider-Man N64
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater N64
Toy Story 2 N64
Vigilante 8 N64
Vigilante 8: Second Offense N64


Playstation

Alundra 2
Apocalypse PSX
Asteroids PSX
Blade PSX
Blast Chamber PSX
Buzz Lightyear PSX
Civilization II PSX
Covert Ops: Nuclear Dawn
Grand Tour Racing '98 PSX
Guardian's Crusade
Intellivision Classics PSX
Jarrett & Labonte Stock Car Racing
MechWarrior 2 Console Edition
The Fifth Element
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain PSX
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX PSX
MechWarrior 2 PSX
Micro Maniacs Racing
Mike Tyson's Boxing (From Codemasters)
MTV Music Generator
No Fear Downhill Mountain Bike Racing (From Codemasters)
Pitfall 3D PSX
Pool Hustler PSX
Power Move Pro Wrestling PSX
Quake II PSX
Space Invaders PSX
Spider-Man PSX
Star Trek Invasion
Tai Fu
Tenchu 2
Tenchu PSX
Time Commando PSX
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater PSX
Touring Car Challenge PSX (From Codemasters)
Toy Story 2 PSX
Vigilante 8 PSX
Vigilante 8: Second Offense PSX
Wu-Tang Shaolin Style
X-Men: Mutant Academy PSX


PC

A10 Cuba! PC
Asteroids PC
Barrage PC
Battlezone Gold PC
Battlezone II PC
Battlezone PC
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain PC
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 4
Cabela's Big Game Hunter I
Cabela's Big Game Hunter II
Cabela's Big Game Hunter III
Cabela's Grand Slam Hunting: North America 29
Cabela's Outdoor Trivia Challenge
Cabela's Sportsman's Challenge PC
Call to Power II
Civilization: Call to Power PC
Commodore64 15-Pack
Dark Reign 2 PC
Dark Reign PC
Dark Reign: Rise of the Shadowhand PC
Earthworm Jim PC
Fighter Squadron PC
Game Vault Vol. 1 PC
Game Vault Vol. 2
Game Vault Vol. 3 PC
Heavy Gear II PC
Heavy Gear PC
Heretic II PC
Hexen II Mission Pack: Portal of Praevus PC
Hexen II PC
HyperBlade PC
Interstate '76 Arsenal PC
Interstate '76 Nitro Pack PC
Interstate '76 PC
Interstate '82 PC
Jack Nicklaus 6: Golden Bear Challenge PC
MechWarrior 2 Expansion Pack
MechWarrior 2 PC
MechWarrior 2: Battlepack
MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries PC
MechWarrior 2: The Titanium Trilogy PC
NetMech
NetStorm PC
Nightmare Creatures
Open Season - BGH2 Expansion Pack
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure PC
The Next Harvest - BGH3 Expansion Pack
Quake II PC
Quake II: Ground Zero PC
Quake II: The Reckoning PC
Quake III Arena PC
Quake III: Team Arena PC
Quake: Dissolution of Eternity PC
Quake: Scourge of Armagon PC
Return to Zork
Shanghai Double Pack PC
Shanghai: Dynasty PC
Shanghai: Mah-Jongg Essentials PC
Shanghai: Second Dynasty PC
SiN PC
Sin: Wages of Sin PC
Soldier of Fortune PC
Space Invaders PC
Special Permit - BGH1 Expansion Pack
Spycraft: The Great Game PC
Star Trek Armada PC
Star Trek Away Team
Star Trek Bridge Commander
Star Trek Hidden Evil PC
Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force PC
Teen Digital Diva
Teen Digital Diva II
Time Commando PC
Touring Car Challenge PC (From Codemasters)
Twinsen's Odyssey PC
Vampire: The Masquerade PC
Wizards & Warriors
Wolfenstein 3D PC
Zork Grand Inquisitor PC








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	29-01-2001 10:55									#34
	Suffering from ads?

i boycotting activision for now on too. i had traveled 40 miles (well the speed limit here is ~75, so its not really all that far) jsut to find a store that had a 30 day no questions asked return policy. And boy was i glad i did that! i returned it after ~3 weeks of hard palying and alot of stupid crap in the game that made it a pain in the rear to play. i almost boycotted activision after the first CTP, but i decided to give them a second chance. well, NEVER again. and looking at the list of games that leonidas put up, it shouldnt be too much of a problem, they are all crappy anyway (except quake II and wolfenstien - back in their days, but then again, i think activision baught them out after teh fact).

good riddance activision, and boy am i glad i was able to get my money back

	29-01-2001 13:57									#35
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Lucky Nemo ..

You know, I honestly feel had a few more patches came out, it would have been a good game .. I bought the game , thinking that it would be implemented like CTP .. with a crappy version 1.0 .. and a much improved game by 1.2

I will not be buying another Activision game at all .. not just because the game is bugged to high heaven .. but because I feel cheated .. They took my money and rode out of town ..

Hope others had more luck in returning the game.

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"Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

	29-01-2001 18:35									#36
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Hmm, Quake an Activision product... Interesting.

Working in the IT industry myself. Mailing complaints to the tech support dept. doesn't work. Snail mailing customer relations dept. should work (but then, you need committment to your customers to have one), and what definitely works is a letter to the CEO/Chairman. Not that I want to give anybody any ideas or something, but where I work, that gets everybody leaving brown stuff down their trouser legs.


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Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

	30-01-2001 03:52									#37
	Increase Your PM Length

Of course you all will buy other Activision products that sound interesting..Check outmost of all the other companies game and their boards. People are always going to boycot the games but the company still makes them and sells other games. See BOTF for a good example.The companies know that you will be back..

	30-01-2001 04:06									#38
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

hi

well the fact in the letter i read on games domain about ctp2 saying they accomplished what they set out to do when designing ctp2 pretty well says it all. they don't realize the games that are huge sellers like Age of Empires and such are because of the commitment of The companies that make these games..Quality=word of mouth=sales and customer loyality.

	30-01-2001 19:14									#39
	Got spare money?

Activision should learn that they can't sell softwares that ;

1. Are totally bugged
2. Are exactly the same than older ones...

This game is nothing more than an add-on, but it costs the price of a full (non-bugged) game...

After that they say that there won't be anymore patches, that diplomacy in HS & PBEM is only a dream...

Robbers...

	30-01-2001 23:08									#40
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

So how many of you have taken the time to write a real letter and mail it to Activision?

Just checking...