01-02-2001 15:50									#31
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DOHHH!!!! Est. delivery time from Germany: 2-6 weeks

Ok, I'll have to play CTP2 for a wee while longer then

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	01-02-2001 17:04									#32
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Just started playing patch 1.07b, and there is big improvements. Powermongers are now more efectivly ganeged up upon by the other powers, which is historically correct.
As im playing the peaceful portugal, this serves me very well indeed.
The fun thing about this game is that I sponsorded sweden with some cash and now they have 5 trade stations in the north america, and itīs just 1550 If I can I gonna help them to beat denmark later on, hehe...

	01-02-2001 20:11									#33
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

EBWorld is showing a ship data of 2/21 for Europa. I've been checking there every few days for a listing on this game, this is the first time I've seen it listed. So the countodwn begins...

John-SJ

	02-02-2001 13:12									#34
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Ah, my suspicions are confirmed! The US version will have 11 scenarios out of the box. The ones from the Swedish/German versions and 3 new ones. Of course, you are free to DL them .
http://www.europa-universalis.com/f...TML/001324.html

	03-02-2001 16:38									#35
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

You go Imran!

Surely though our European brothers shall think this is simply more of the International Conspiracy to keep them under the thumb of the US Military-Industrial Complex! I have put in my advance order through EB.


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	03-02-2001 18:36									#36
	Tired of ads?

its good to see eu has made it to apolyton because in my civ opinion this game is as ground breaking in the game world as civ was 10 years ago. apolyton needs to cover this game because its going to be a huge hit with civ players, hey mark can you make a forum for just europa universalis? i abandoned apolyton a month ago just because it doesnt cover this game, apolyton does a good job of covering civ games so maybe they could cover eu too.

	03-02-2001 21:38									#37
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I'm going out to buy it today, I'll post a mini review on sunday night after about 18 hours of hard core playing

	04-02-2001 04:37									#39
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Software ETC guy says there company says they have it but he said I have to pay extra to get them to ship it early or something. LOL EB didn't have it, but that was stated earlier. Wacked up stuff plus...


... It's weird because I have never seen a game reviewed by PCGamer that wasn't out yet


so disappointed


PCGamer(US) gave it an 80%, but it says its a magnificent strategy game

I did go buy the Alpha Centauri book, it's pretty good so far a lot like reading the Spartan Chronicles but it cost me 5 bucks.
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	04-02-2001 08:11									#40
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I also have put a pre-order on it .

And I was mistaken.. there are 4 (FOUR) new scenarios: The Age of Revolution and the War for Independence are 2 seperate scenarios!

	04-02-2001 13:01									#41
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There is also the forum in french on www.benzo.net.
The EU french forum is here:
http://pub10.ezboard.com/fbenzonetworkeuropauniversalis

Already 850 messages posted.

EU is the greatest strategy game I never played.

A+


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	05-02-2001 15:43									#42
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

French forum ? Why anyone would like to speak french is beyond me
Well, the french are abbout to be conquered by portugal Iīt has taken quite some time, but now im ready

	07-02-2001 19:35									#43
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I wonder if Europa Universalis could get it's own forum here on Apolyton? There seems to be a lot of people interested in it here. I mean if Dinosaurs can get a forum why not this game. It could go in the Alternative Civs / Other Games section.

	08-02-2001 03:08									#44
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I think it's inevitable to have it's own forum like CTP1 and 2 and all the Civ variants. The game is to be released in the US on Feb 21st so look for a flood of posts in similar EU threads in this forum to appear in March-April. I would expect by summer the number of posts would reach some critical threshold where it merits its own forum and page.

BTW, the game from what I understand is very modifiable and actually consists of text files for most of the changes. Some things can't be changed as they are part of the game engine, as expected.

There is also some discussion of utilities for people to write to support editing features of the game without going into the text files to make changes. And that of course would invite a lot of users to customize their game like in Civ 2.

The game is bound to be a big draw and I think, a welcome addition as a forum here once enough folks have their hands on it.

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	08-02-2001 17:22									#45
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Mostly everything (countries and such) are editable through the textfiles, even save games since they are saved as scenarios.
I have been through the save games a couple of times, and although they are big it is quite easy to understand, alot easier than certain things in CTP for example.
Donīt know about a utility, there is a discussion on it but noone has really take responsibility for it... yet.
But it should have itīs own section, of course.

	10-02-2001 08:52									#47
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Didn't see this mentioned.
CGN now has a EU forum, with Imran as moderator. Check it out.
http://www.civgaming.net/cgi-bin/fo...salis&number=10



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	14-02-2001 18:03									#49
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I hate that I have to wait for the Mac port
I live in Sweden and all but I still can't get it before the americans 'cuz they aren't finnished whit the port

	14-02-2001 18:31									#50
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Henrik, just be happy your note Mac user living in the UK. Why they have to give the Yanks EU before those actually in the EU is beyond me?

Perhaps punishment for the UK being so anti-European

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	15-02-2001 09:16									#51
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Having a mac is all the punishment you will ever need

Hang in there though, itīs worth the heat, ....erm.... sorry, the wait !

	16-02-2001 03:27									#52
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I've heard that EU requires 64 meg RAM. I have only 48, and am not planning on upgrading anytime soon. I thought you europeans were less likely to have high power PCs than here. Am i wrong? Will EU run on less than 64 meg?

	20-02-2001 09:44									#53
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Reviews give a vague indication of whether a game is good, but they aren't definite. Last time I read that Starfleet Command was supposed to be great, so I bought it. Alas, the game turned out to be a lemon, so the reviews caused me to waste money

Why don't they have a demo on their site?

	20-02-2001 12:21									#54
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Because the game is so highly customizable, that it'd be impossible to REALLY limit it...

Um.. you could (and I really don't advocate this, but..) DL a warez copy and try it out and then erase it from your HD and buy it....

	20-02-2001 21:11									#55
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

AHOOOOOOGGGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

EU is shipping in the UK!

I orderded my copy @ firstsoftware.com and I can't wait.

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Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

	21-02-2001 01:33									#56
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

EU simply must be an accurate gamne even historians plays it! ( www.peterenglund.com/nu.htm , the site is in swedish but still!).

	21-02-2001 07:22									#57
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Irman,

They could do what Space Empire IV does, limit the game length. Maybe 300 turns, or something like that.

I don't really trust warez on my machines

	21-02-2001 09:48									#58
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

From what I understand, 1792 is the absolute cutoff date for the game. So any limitation could be set from when you begin a scenario.


Though I'm not sure what the reference is to (regarding limitations), so take that for what it's worth.


Ship date in twelve minutes!

	21-02-2001 15:23									#59
	Increase Your PM Length

Urban ranger, demos work far worse than warez. Not that I would know

But I personally can very much recommend this game. I donīt know anyone that have it and donīt like it. If you feel the game is in your genre you will surely like it.

And know you americans and brittish donīt have any excuses, go and buy the game !

	21-02-2001 17:28									#60
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Well... even though I just live in the UK and am (thank {insert higher being of choice or non-religious indicator of good fortune here}, hmmm being PC is rather verbose ) neither British nor Americans, I have placed my order, and have confirmation that it has shipped (or at least the free postage has shipped, EU is to follow ?)))

Still can't wait, I'll be jumping the postwoman tomorrow, so if I don't return within a few days, I got done for harassment



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