20-06-2000 17:09									#31
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Yes, folks, it's great to be back. I've changed jobs and now can get to Apolyton from work. Sssshhhhh!!!!

Sten makes the best argument for giving away technology. If I'm slowed up in my research by having more, then the AI should also be slowed up. Duh!!!

Boy, I've missed this site.

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	20-06-2000 22:01									#32
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"Most OCCers don't mind (in fact they like) the rate of science being increased for the AI since they expect to get a ship off to AC way before their AI rivals."

Yes, bit confusing and wrong in the context of the thread

The thing about OCC is the AI can't keep up with all the science advancements as efficiently as the One City. Like you can give the AI university as it hasn't even built libraries in most of it's cities. And Economics as AI hasn't gotten marketplaces in its cities. I'd be surprised if AI has a single factory when I give it Electronics. Even Space flight is okay at times as the AI cities usually lack the infrastructure to build a quick space ship.

Yeah, giving away science slows down the AI's tech rate while speeding up the One City's. Too bad it slows down the AI's research! It's usually inconsequential in OCC since AI doesn't have the time to effectively utilize all the science.

So what is the right number of cities to assist the SSC in non-OCC? I have a hard time building and defending more than 3 satellite cities early on as most of my money goes to the SSC.

	21-06-2000 02:57									#33
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This probably an obvious question but wouldn't it depend on the world size on which you're playing? On a small world, which is all I play now, I get to about 6 to 8 cities and then run out of room to expand. That seems to be a managable number in support of the SSC.

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	23-06-2000 09:32									#34
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Yeah KC, I usually play on a small map and usually the games involve a shared continent.

Those satellite cities are hard to defend. And they often require resources I need for my SSC. Like rush built city walls. Once they get going it's good, but sometimes they impede the building of wonders in the SSC.

	23-06-2000 09:49									#35
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My brother-in-law comes over to play about every other week. He's only playing his third game and I still have to coach him. He's playing on a large world, has ships sailing to every corner of the globe, and every time he spots a goody hut, it's like pulling teeth to keep him from tipping it over and over and over until he gets an advanced tribe. He has about 50 cities going, the AI has about 200 all total, he saves and reloads constantly, it's about 1800 AD, we've got about 20 hours of playing time invested in this game, and he's just started build factories in a few cities.

Somebody shoot me!
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	23-06-2000 09:55									#37
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Tonic, I remember that game! OCC3. Yeah, money and trading science were the issues back then. But now it seems to also affects tech research.

Yeah, give those warrior nations Robotics. Can't imagine how long it would take them to build a howie... in OCC5 it would have been good to build a Marine for once!

[Edit: Yes, good use of the word flaunt...]

KC, wasn't it called "reverting?"
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	23-06-2000 16:49									#38
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Reverting! How soon they forget.

Thanks, A.

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