17-07-2001 20:37									#31
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I agree. Every person, upon reaching custom avatar status (500 posts, or a year), shall get to choose their own title, subject to peer review (all other custom avatarers), and if after three choices, they cannot get a title that adequatly suits their personality or contribution to the site, then the peers vote a selection commitee, who then propose three more title suggestions, which are then voted upon by the community as a whole, via a poll here in the Apolyton/Community forum.

	17-07-2001 21:10									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Blah, blah, blah. Are the elitists powering up again so no 'newbie' such as even myself should get a look in. Oh what a surprise, you have a Jan 1970 after your title.

I dont ahve Jan 1970 so your argument falls down, i want the originals here to be recognised ...

quote: I know the score around here, I know who is who, better than most 1970s and I have made my mark on the Apolyton forums, both off- and on-topic. I should, hypothetically, be just as eligable for the 'elder' title.

you dont need the elder title, elder is to do with age (in this case age of regsitration) not how much of a mark you hav emade. you have been rewarded with an emporers title for all your posts

quote: Or what about MLeonard or MichaeltheGreat, both registered in the latter part of 1999, who can most certainly be described as significant members of the community, a damn sight more than many Jan 1970s.

again each of these two have a title showing their role here

quote: So no, this would not be a sensible move, and I am sure the admins/mods would agree with me. Each case should be judged on it's merits.

the merit is that they joined before apolyton existed jan 1970 is before most of us had a computer .....

	17-07-2001 21:25									#33
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Prvovost, "Blah, blah, blah. Are the elitists powering up again so no 'newbie' such as even myself should get a look in. Oh what a surprise, you have a Jan 1970 after your title."

Oh what a surprise, you're near deity. Maybe you’re the real elitist around here and just anxious the value of your deity status would be diminished.

Either that or you failed to grasp what my proposal is all about. The elder status would complement the current titles based on spam stimulating post counts, not replace it. The intention behind an age based title is not to reward your current contribution to the forums, something which post-counts also fails to achieve, but to reward longevity.
The 1970’ers are the founders of the community, they created its traditions, preserved its heritage and they are a fountain of wisdom and knowledge of our history. My conclusion is that they ought to be respected as such.

Wombat, you're proposal is a fine one, but I believe it's a bit elaborate and thus impractical.

	17-07-2001 21:41									#34
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hope you werent serious there IW.....

And if number of posts equals status then i guess for the past month i am the most influential

but PC does not represent contribution, not in al lcases anyway, we know all of ALexander Horses posts are valauble and he justly deserves the title of diety, but do we think all posters who get to 10000 posts are deitys NO... most will be dirty rotten spammers

	17-07-2001 22:07									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison ...some people have contributed more in 3 months than some have in 3 years...

... and some have contributed massive amounts of verbiage without actually having any impact beyond making a thread longer. One high-ranking person has posted essentially the same message thousands of times (in a nutshell, "I'm great, you suck". It seems that much of what some deity/emperor players post is just spam spam spam. (If they contributed before my arrival, then I stand corrected.)

How to separate contribution from blather? One might suggest the number of words per post, but that would be too imprecise. It seems that using post count isn't really going to resolve this.

	17-07-2001 22:15									#36
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All of this just makes me think that I was right in my belief that titles cause nothing but problems, and PC is a waste of time.

You want titles? Here are some, all that is needed:

For Mark and Dan: Administraters/Owners

For all the forum mods: Moderator

For everyone else: Apolyton poster

Enough of this stuff.

	17-07-2001 22:25									#37
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ahhh sounds like communism Comrade, we are all equal !!!

	17-07-2001 22:33									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin ahhh sounds like communism Comrade, we are all equal !!!

No Ras, it's democracy, and freedom, not communism.

And to get back on point, I'm perfectly serious about my proposal. We debate this endlessly, but the fact is, PH is right, there are a few elist people here who cling to titles, and would never go for it.

	17-07-2001 22:46									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 No Ras, it's democracy, and freedom, not communism.

Democracy isnt about us all having the same title, thats communism , freedom is about being able to post absolutely whatever we want. we cant do that either here as these are private forums not public ones, it is a priveledge to post here not a right...

to suitably honour those who have been here from the start, and seen all the changes and yet stayed with it, it would be nice to give them a new title..... not to remove the titles already earned by the mutli posters who have posted their way to emporer and above with very meaningful posts both at OT when it counted and here on Topic.

come on mark/dan/ming etal please give this serious consideration !!!

	18-07-2001 04:53									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin hope you werent serious there IW.....

Not entirely serious, and I realise it will never be accepted, but that would be democratic, rather than the kill-all-post-counts communist approach.

	18-07-2001 11:10									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 All of this just makes me think that I was right in my belief that titles cause nothing but problems, and PC is a waste of time. You want titles? Here are some, all that is needed: For Mark and Dan: Administraters/Owners For all the forum mods: Moderator For everyone else: Apolyton poster Enough of this stuff.

Another way to say it:

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	18-07-2001 15:20									#42
	won't somebody think of the elders? Inflate your Upload Space

I'm extremely disappointed so many people engage themselves in ideological warfare instead of caring to bring recognition to the 1970'ers by granting them a well-earned title.

	18-07-2001 16:30									#43
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I still think my suggestion is the fairest.

	18-07-2001 16:49									#44
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Not entirely. As I said previously, it's too elaborate and it lacks transparency so it's open to external manipulation. A standard exams would be much fairer because it ensures a level playing field and it also simplifies the entire process thus making it more transparent.

	18-07-2001 19:25									#45
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quote: For Mark and Dan: Administraters/Owners For all the forum mods: Moderator For everyone else: Apolyton poster

*Ahem* I think 'News Editor' should be title too .