27-07-2001 01:19									#31
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Apolyton used to be branching threads...

	27-07-2001 01:26									#32
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GP, Apolyton never had any branching boards.

	27-07-2001 01:48									#33
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Are you sure? What about right when it started? When Mr. Mantequila and Jesse used to be here?

	27-07-2001 02:19									#34
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perhaps you remember the uciviis board

	27-07-2001 02:22									#35
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GP, I didn't post here from the very beginning, when Dan's and Markos' sites were merged, only a bit afterwards, but it had UBB boards at the time.

Maybe you're thinking of the Addicted or the Ultimate boards?

	27-07-2001 02:35									#36
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Maybe right weh we started it was branching for a while. I'm the tradition-holder. Trust me.

	27-07-2001 02:51									#37
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Hey GP I’m with you, you know, tradition matters. Branching boards would cure a lot of the evils progress brought to us, 1970’ers like us should be given proper by giving us our own distinct titles and people who changed their name should be forced to revert to their old ones...

But Apolyton definitely didn't had branching threads.

	27-07-2001 03:07									#38
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I like your style chocolate man!

	27-07-2001 03:27									#39
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Addicted and the Original Greek site weren't ever branching thread forums. But Ultimate was

	27-07-2001 05:47									#40
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spam sucks....but its like cheating in games and boasting or flames.... a part of the boards...... PCR are the best way to prevent spams but then again..... you can get away with some spam.... its not pushing the envelope and then there are no PCRs....

	27-07-2001 05:59									#41
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Well, as I said previously I fail to graps the sensibility behind a punishment tool that encourages the misschief.

Surely, to a spammer, a 10% PCR wouldn't be any less harsh than a 1-day ban?

	27-07-2001 06:02									#42
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the fine balnce is hard to find, people get upset if they see you posting lots , no matter what you post (as i found out) .. to palcate people i have reduced my exposure, Not that i get any thanks for that

	27-07-2001 07:30									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin the fine balnce is hard to find, people get upset if they see you posting lots , no matter what you post (as i found out) .. to palcate people i have reduced my exposure, Not that i get any thanks for that

This is your reduced exposure?!!?

	27-07-2001 08:06									#44
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Colon,

It seems that those who are against post counts are us Emperors *cough* *cough*


CyberShy,

Tell you what. I'd get even more radical and suggest that even the titles should be taken away. Only the functional ones (mods, admins, helpers) and the special ones (see Yin26 for example ) are needed.

	27-07-2001 08:30									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Addicted and the Original Greek site weren't ever branching thread forums. But Ultimate was

Addicted was. Wasn't it?

	27-07-2001 11:55									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Colon, It seems that those who are against post counts are us Emperors *cough* *cough*

Not all . Too bad I think the post counts will never be taken away.... STUBBORN ADMINS !

	27-07-2001 16:14									#47
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"Colon,

It seems that those who are against post counts are us Emperors *cough* *cough* "

Your point being? Are we against because we detest it that we aren't deities? Maybe we like it that our hard efforts to become emperor will have turned out to be futile?

I can make up theories like those too you know.

	27-07-2001 17:11									#48
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Post count is highly overrated.

I´m not saying I´m completely immune to tracking the number of posts I made and the title I have, but apart from that...
Besides, as far as I know post count related spam issues are related mostly to the off-topic forum. If it wasn´t for the spam, Ming would be without a job .

If spamming really is done just to get to the next title, maybe titles should be reversed. You start at Deity and you end at Settler. Or the titles could be based on how long a person has been on Apolyton.
But then again, I like it just the way it is.

	27-07-2001 17:28									#49
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quote: Originally posted by GP Addicted was. Wasn't it?

Nope... Addicted was NOT branching threads when we were posting there. That's one of the reasons why I liked Addicted. I hate branching thread forums. Now, Ulitmate was. I spent much more time at Addicted because it wasn't. When Addicted closed down for "updating"... that's when I migrated over to the Greek site instead of just moving to Ultimate.

	27-07-2001 17:45									#50
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But Ming, branching boards didn't had spam, did they?
Mmmm, now I'm starting to think about this, I believe the only reason you dislike branching threads is because you'd be out of a job which means you'd lose your treasured perks.
Yeah, I'm onto you...

Mercator, I believe that the least you can say is that PC’s isn’t a good motive to make posts.

	27-07-2001 18:25									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Colon I believe the only reason you dislike branching threads is because you'd be out of a job which means you'd lose your treasured perks.

Teasured perks

HA HA HA HA... Please tell me what those are. I need to be reminded of them as I read through thousands of "real interesting" threads

And you are right, they really wouldn't need moderators with branching threads... the posting activity would drop to next to nothing

	27-07-2001 20:02									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Nope... Addicted was NOT branching threads when we were posting there. That's one of the reasons why I liked Addicted. I hate branching thread forums. Now, Ulitmate was. I spent much more time at Addicted because it wasn't. When Addicted closed down for "updating"... that's when I migrated over to the Greek site instead of just moving to Ultimate.

God, I was sure it was branching! Anyhoo, remember Mr. Mentquilla and Jesse when we first started at Apolyton. It was mostly spam back then, no? And tolerated.

	27-07-2001 20:09									#53
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quote: Originally posted by GP God, I was sure it was branching! Anyhoo, remember Mr. Mentquilla and Jesse when we first started at Apolyton. It was mostly spam back then, no? And tolerated.

As we get older... our memory goes first (ADDICTED WAS NOT A BRANCHING FORUM)

Those two were a riot... They kept me laughing. But to your point... Most of what they posted was in the general forum (the OTF of it's time) It was really no different then what is currently being posted in the OTF

	27-07-2001 21:03									#54
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Ming, we didn't had to worry about global warming and nuclear proliferation during the medieval ages, and similarly we didn't had to worry about spam when there were branching boards.

The least they can do is remerge off-topic with the general civ2 forum. There was a lot less spam when they still were one, and I think the civ2 forum is virtually death anyway, only kept alive by nostalgia.

	27-07-2001 21:25									#55
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Yeah!!!! Let's either merge the OT with Civ2 general...or create CTP and CIv2 OTs. This will defeintiely get the animals riled up!!

And for tradition's sake, we should switch back to a gray color scheme!!!

	27-07-2001 21:34									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Colon Mercator, I believe that the least you can say is that PC’s isn’t a good motive to make posts.

Definitely.

I´m quite sure that the Addicted forums were not branching (I hate those too). But well, I didn´t really post anywhere until shortly after the genesis of Apolyton.

quote: The least they can do is remerge off-topic with the general civ2 forum. There was a lot less spam when they still were one, and I think the civ2 forum is virtually death anyway, only kept alive by nostalgia.

Maybe everyone on OT should prove (s)he´s a civaddict, or be banned. The release of Civ3 should then increase the amount of on-topic talk, which could lead to the decrease of spam. Or maybe there would only be more spam, when newbie civ-ers appear on Apolyton... Or maybe I´m just dreaming.

	27-07-2001 21:35									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Colon The least they can do is remerge off-topic with the general civ2 forum. There was a lot less spam when they still were one, and I think the civ2 forum is virtually death anyway, only kept alive by nostalgia.

Civ2 forum virtually dead? HUH? It's still very much alive, with countless MP games being set up... cateloging of strategy... and help for the newbees... Dead??? Not by a long shot

And GP... up to your old tricks again I see

	27-07-2001 21:38									#58
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quote: Originally posted by GP And for tradition's sake, we should switch back to a gray color scheme!!!

Or maybe you should change the forum style set in your profile to "Default".

	27-07-2001 21:58									#59
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I'm in the default. well I've never been into my profile, so I assume it's default. I'm talking about the old color scheme!

	28-07-2001 00:10									#60
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Mercator,
”Maybe everyone on OT should prove (s)he´s a civaddict, or be banned”

Yes, yes, good idea, there should be an exams or an inquiry of some sort. I think Darkcloud would be able to draw up one and we ask Cecil or Bob Dornan to pose the questions.

”Or maybe I´m just dreaming.”

No don’t worry this is real life and you have excellent ideas.

Ming, I’m sorry man, but the civ2 forums got to be moribund, because I haven’t read one single civ2 thread for years now and surely that indicates something? I mean, I wouldn’t have ignored it if they’d have caught my attention and why aren’t they catching it eh?
Help for newbies? You’re just deluding yourself, there’s no way that after all our horrorstories about the AI people are still buying civ2.

Besides, civ2 is another very good reason for re-merging OT with civ2general, people would be reminded about civ2 again and just possibly there would several chat about it. That would be nice.