29-10-2001 11:47									#121
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#18 to Hunter

	06-11-2001 05:34									#122
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The last turn I have in this game is AeroPrinz turn 19 to Blackice on 30 Oct 2001. Anybody played anything since then?

	11-11-2001 03:09									#123
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Turn 19 --> Swissy (Blackice nexted)

	11-11-2001 03:17									#124
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Turn to Hunter

	13-11-2001 02:45									#125
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Where is the game?

	14-11-2001 00:58									#126
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Turn 20 --> Keygen (Fuzzball nexted)

Fuzzball and Blackice seem to have disappeared from the Face of the Earth. Oh no, that's the other game I moderate

Something to do with the release of Civ III methinks. Check out my poll in the CivCTP multiplayer forum.

Goodness knows what will happen to CivCTP when Civ III drops through my (and lots of other UK) letterboxes in 3 days.

	19-11-2001 02:17									#127
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Turn 20 --> Swissy (Blackice nexted)

	23-11-2001 16:38									#128
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It seems that the game has stucked.

Any idea on where the turn resides?

If Swissy haven't played it yet it means he haven't received it so a resent would be advisable.

	23-11-2001 19:58									#129
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From: Ivan Kanivets
Subject: Three Guns Turn 18
To: blackicegl@home.com

Hey PN what do you think someone is sending turns to wrong address? This was last turn I ever received, what's the address the turn that are supposed to be being sent to me PN Come on PN spill it what is the address...

What other games do you moderate in PN that I am in cuz as with this game they now need a new player... Sorry people I'm outta here The rest of us moderators have the concideration to email the player and ask what's up before we next. As much as you like to rant and rave PN I have and will continue to play turns at a fast pace in every game I am in...when they come to me

Last edited by blackice on 23-11-2001 at 20:06

	23-11-2001 20:41									#130
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For my personal experience both Blackice and Swissy always play their turn. Special attention should be given to Blackice who is involved in too many games and I wonder how is it possible to keep up with all these games

In the other hand I believe that PN is quite busy for the past 1-2 months that he won't check the games very often so if a game stucks for many days he feels kind rushed and next people to preserve the turn flow.

I propose to the moderators that they check their emais more often (including myself ) and always forward the turn to the delayed player before nexting him. After half a day or more and if the perticular person haven't played his turn then a clean nexting is required.

Finally I would like to ask to hold your temper since most of us are busy people with personal life and important things going on on our lives so it is expected that some faults and some problems occur and quite often I could say so have understanding.

Blackice, I expect that you will remain in the game. Besides it wouldn't be so fun without you

	23-11-2001 23:14									#131
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quote: I wonder how is it possible to keep up with all these games

I have no problem at all keeping up with it as with you my email is sorted by game it comes in I play it. What pisses me is not paying attention to the fact that I play all my games, three have been missed in what almost a year!!!!! This twerp has branded me and that I resent especially since it is obvious the turns are not making it to me. He more than likely does not know the damn thing changed. Worse yet has made no effort what so ever to find out!!!! yes Keygen we all have lives yes I am busy too. But as a moderator I ask, email the person to find out, nope I do not go shooting my mouth off without one iota of effort put in to find out what is wrong. that is simply not ethical and not what we have agreed to period, for players or moderators

	24-11-2001 18:47									#132
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Ice,

Please look at my post on 6-Nov on this thread. At that time I also emailed you. The address I have is blackicegl@home.com. Is that right please?

With no reply from you on the threads where I know you are normally very diligent and active, and no reply from the email I sent you, it wasn't unreasonable to next you was it?

So I did in fact do all the things you suggest.

Please let's stop the war of words and play the games eh? I had no wish to cause offence. I've only been playing this game as PBEM a few months, and a moderator for less than that so maybe my inexperience is showing through.

	24-11-2001 18:49									#133
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Fuzzy,

I have resent you turn 20. You have 24 hours to take your turn.

	24-11-2001 19:20									#134
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So I did in fact do all the things you suggest.

Except read the %$@^%@&^%@* post that has been on the forum here for three weeks stating my address change



I put it up again just for you so no you were not reasonable at all, in fact you also received an email from me about the address change missed that too

blackicegl@cogeco.ca

Ok so before you next someone email them in this case the email would have come back to you...

PN some people simply don't get turns, isp's etc lot's of reasons so check first ok...

Does'nt play anymore games that i'm in what a joke!!!!!

One thing we should try to do here is not shoot off at people for any reason. Cheating take it to your moderator, missed turns take it to the player posting it here obviously will cause a war of words go figure...So while it is not your fault entirely and I appologise now who is the ^%#&#^#^ sending my turns to the wrong address, did any lightbulbs go off when it was returned to youduh... we need neon fonts here so people pay attention...

Last edited by blackice on 24-11-2001 at 19:29

	25-11-2001 03:55									#135
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My apologies, I had missed the post about your address change. These days I use the 'subscribe' thingy all the time so I tend to only look in threads where I am playing or moderating.

I honestly don't remember getting an email about this. But around the end of October my system crashed and I was off the air for a few days. I've got different copies of my inbox around that time all over the place so I may have missed it.

Even though home.com has shut down I think that your old email address may still exist 'Ice and this may be helping to cause the confusion. My ISP returns me an error within hours if the address doesn't exist, and tries to deliver for 16 days if the address does exist but it cannot deliver. So far, I have not had any of either type of error when trying to contact you on the old address. This suggests to me that the mails are being delivered. Lesson learned is that I should have put return-receipt on too.

In this game, it's AeroPrinz who sends turns to you and he too has been sending them to the old address. I've dropped him a note to let him know the new address.

	25-11-2001 04:22									#136
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Apologies, but I am going away on a training course and will not be able to moderate this game until 28-November 08:00 GMT

	25-11-2001 10:47									#137
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The original message was received at Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:15:46 -0800 (PST)
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Dang those assumptions again getting the better of you, oh well lessons learned again

	28-11-2001 14:14									#138
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We need a sub for Fuzzy. In his absence, I've asked his partner (Hunter) to take his turns on his behalf.

	28-11-2001 15:31									#139
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quote: Originally posted by PN We need a sub for Fuzzy. In his absence, I've asked his partner (Hunter) to take his turns on his behalf.

I've posted an advertisement in YRC.

BTW, have you forwarded turn 20 to Hunter?

	29-11-2001 03:58									#140
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...but for reasons outside my control I am unable to access my email and unable to moderate this game until Monday 03 December 08:00 GMT

And yes Keygen I did send the turn to Hunter

	30-11-2001 13:52									#141
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Turn 21 to Aeroprinz.

	05-12-2001 05:27									#142
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I've asked Hunter to take Fuzzy's turn again

	08-12-2001 16:18									#143
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Turn 22 to Aeroprinz.

	23-12-2001 22:54									#144
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Hunter, you were sent a turn on 19 December. Please take it and the the turn of of your 'virtual'partner that Keygen is trying to replace.

I am away now until 29 December.I've been so busy I did not make time to find a sub sorry

	10-01-2002 12:36									#145
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I did receive a copy Keygens turn the 1. jan 2002.

Now, since nothing seems to happen here, the turn are forwarded.

	11-01-2002 05:33									#146
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Waiting for Blackice to take turn 26

	11-01-2002 06:20									#147
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Looks like as usual you don't wait very long for me unless something goes big time wrong!

Turn 26 sent

our nation seems to have more food now than we know what to do with.

	11-01-2002 06:20									#148
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Looks like as usual you don't wait very long for me unless something goes big time wrong!

Turn 26 sent

our nation seems to have more food now than we know what to do with.

	11-01-2002 14:02									#149
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Turn 27 to Aeroprinz.

	11-01-2002 23:23									#150
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Looks like as usual you don't wait very long for me unless something goes big time wrong! Turn 26 sent our nation seems to have more food now than we know what to do with.

I just thought that the very rare event of waiting for you deserved to be posted.

Did you get Aeroprinz's original turn on 07 Jan or did you use the copy I sent you on 10 Jan? I didn't get a copy of the turn you made. Have you and me/you and AeroPrinz got email problems again?

There's always too much food around after Christmas. So why does everybody start dieting?