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Originally posted by isaac brock
If you send them a polite but firm mail, that makes it clear that you are angry and won't buy without multiplayer, they may be more likely to give in. I don't think a campaign of friendly inquiries will do the trick. Did women get the vote by ringing up the government and cordially requesting it? |
Hmmm...
I always thought Dan M. and some others of Firaxis read these forums. Don't you think they've seen your opnion already? I guess sending them mail adds none to what they already know. I guess "those guys"at Firaxis or the "Jerks"or whatever cute nicknames I've seen for them who actually program the game are just as unhappy with the situation as expressed here. But we all know programmers usually have very few to say about what's in there and what's not. Usually that's a marketing/publishers/management question.
I agree on the fact that it would be nice from Firaxis to shine some light on this.
What I'm afraid of is not that the absence of MP is going to affect my Game play. I hardly use MP. What I do fear is that in all wellknown gaming magazines the game I 've been looking forward to for so long hardly receives a medium grade (or mark or whatever they call this) just because of the lack of MP. Those mags, just as some players here, seem to think that all players want MP and that the absence of it is a crime against gaming humatiy.
And bad reviews mean most of the times sales way below the estimated sales and thus could influence the decision whether to create a Civ4 or not.
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Who says you can't play with a slow modem? For most of my time on here I played on a 28.8 connection. In the last year here I got a 56K connection and I've been able to play tons of games.
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:15
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Am I the only one that sees the cutting of MP foretell many other vital parts of the game to also be cut?
'That is why I am so concerned, they promised a great MP and are cutting it what about AI? What about balance? What about a good game?
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Leonidas
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I don't play multiplayer, so that part does not bother me.
What does worry me is, if they are cutting multiplayer because of deadline dates, then what else will be cut and/or be buggy because of this rush for the release date?
I can't believe that Sid would allow his flagship game - THE GREATEST STRATEGY GAME OF ALL TIME - to be released before it is properly finished. Yet that is what is happening.
This game is going to take some major hits in the reviews after it is released because of this omission. Shame on you Firaxis.
I also find it interesting that Firaxis didn't tell their loyal fans in public about this. What else aren't they telling us, hmmm?
Last edited by Leonidas on 09-09-2001 at 21:05
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Lung
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of my princess Anastasia!
Mar 1999
time: 15:15
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Originally posted by blackice
I have posted this in several MP places I think once the MP people hit this spot you will see the graph move...as this information of no MP play is one of the dumbest things I have read in some time...
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I'm one of them! You're absolutely right, BlackIce. Now that it has been posted on the Call to Power PBEM forum, there will be plenty more no votes 
This is good news only for CtP PBEMers, as it is not destined to die in a few weeks from now. However, it's not the six month wait for Multiplayer that gets me, but the prospect of having to pay extra for the priviledge! It was reported on the CTP Multiplayer forum that CivIII was going to cost a whopping 60 bucks, and the multiplayer would cost another whopping 30 bucks!! If this is true, then this is outrageous!!
That means that in Australia, CivIII will cost a massive $120! It's so expensive, that i have actually been saving for CivIII. Spending another 60 bucks just for multiplayer is simply not an option. I will buy CivIII because i am a civ addict  , but if i have to pay another 60 bucks for multiplayer, i will get a pirate copy - not only on principle, but also because i can't afford it.
So perhaps we should have another poll to see who will buy a CivIII gold edition? Not this little black duck!!
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Deity Dude
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Westland, Michigan
Aug 2000
time: 00:15
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Where did this rumor come from and how reliable is it. I won't buy it w/o multiplayer. Whats the point - we'll have the AI figured out in about a month - then it will be all about gimmicks.
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Gosh Slowwhand, when you put it that way... by gum, you're right. I can't believe I've been wasting my time with SP, when I could be playing MP with such pleasant, friendly people like yourself. I've been such a fool.
Troll.
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Sn00py
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From New Zealand
Aug 2001
time: 13:15
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I never play MP, but I know bad publicity. Once you look bad in the eyes of the players, your future sales with future games will drop and continue to drop until you are bankrupt. This is exactly what has been happening to so many other game developers out there just recently.
Firaxis, all I will say to you now is that us gamers are not stupid at all. You need to DO good in order to LOOK good, if you don't look good, then I can guarantee you now, you will lose respect, very very quickly. No respect = No money.
The gaming industry is rapidly changing, especially the players themselves, their attitudes towards games can change within a matter of a few news snippets and word of mouth. Suddenly you have the majority of the gamers on the Internet laughing and KNOWING what that company is now like - and from the Internet to the rest of the world.
I don't play MP at all, I never think of it. But that is totally irrelevant. If you can't include MP in a FULL RELEASE of CIV3, and then THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY with selling MP as an 'addon'. - WELL, you'd be lucky to get away with that, VERY LUCKY. - This is like firing a gun at Firaxis and hoping there's no bullet inside.
I can think of one company that I respect most and that is Blizzard. I don't even play their games or take interest in the type of stuff they produce. But I RESPECT them. Whenever I hear Blizzard, I ALREADY KNOW its going to be good. This is the BEST type of publicity you could ask for. If I was interested in Orcs, goblins, rts, etc I would actually buy their games, all of them!
But I would never buy anyone else's, because I simply don't respect and trust that they deliver good software. I will just download it to be safe. Because who wants to buy a bad game? YOU?
Do I feel guilty about it? Hell No! I want to rid the world of bad game developers and support the good. Who wouldn't?
It makes me believe that Blizzards PR guy/girl is probably just some nobody who knows lots of people and never studied PR in his/her life. - The Best PR person you could get. Like I said, we're not stupid.
Bottom line, Civ3 without MP is like a TV with one channel and then expecting us to buy another TV just to get a second channel.
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Mahdimael
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Sandy Eigo, CA, USA
May 2001
time: 05:15
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I'm not too concerned about multiplayer. I'd much rather have an innovative style of MP a month later than the same boring 15-hour game MP that's available. MP doesn't work with TBS in most cases.
I forget who posted earlier, but they're correct. I don't need 12 year olds kicking me from a game because I don't trade them iron, or people dropping connections when they start losing or whatever. I'd prefer the computer. Civ1, Civ2, MOO, Star Control 2..all my favorite games, and none had network multiplayer. I don't need to wait 10 minutes for the one guy who's idled out.
Even if it does ship with MP, I probably won't use it much, if at all.
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09-09-2001 10:08
with PBEM).
( unless it takes too long ) , while others do not. But at least it would be great to have the choice to do micro or more macro ( letting the AI to manage some cities ) with the same challenge level . I doubt that, though I'm still a confident civer.
or are planning to upgrade would you not want a complete game? Or is it complete 
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