26-09-2001 15:56									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Triped Yes, but World Health Org. brings on visions of inneficient beauracracy and red tape.

Your point being?

Democracy, the mother of all governments in Civ is little but beaurocracy and red-tape.

	26-09-2001 16:17									#32
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quote: Originally posted by PGM regarding Longevity wonder Wow, this would be a must-have in civ2 but let's see what happens in civ3. And the fact that it is not a Small Wonder gives its owner a biiiiig boost.

Well it sounds the equivalent of the cloning vats in SMAC which resulted in a pop boom at every base in your empire, although it was possible to pop boom in SMAC through Golden Ages (equivalent of WLTKD)

	26-09-2001 16:50									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Ribannah Longevity is a ridiculous name for a wonder.

You scored a hit!

Two other things:

Will Wltkd still be worthwhile at all?
Isn´t 'Longevity' TOO strong, especially as a major wonder? (Only one can have it.) And why major? Everybody could have penicillin and such. Shouldn´t it be a minor wonder?

	26-09-2001 19:25									#34
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Agreed, comrade.

Although I feel most strongly about that name.

Longevity, I ask you. CtP overtones abound.

	27-09-2001 03:08									#35
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quote: Originally posted by JosefGiven Longevity, I ask you. CtP overtones abound.

I believe Longevity was first used in SMAC, not CTP.

	27-09-2001 12:33									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune Two other things: Will Wltkd still be worthwhile at all? Isn´t 'Longevity' TOO strong, especially as a major wonder? (Only one can have it.) And why major? Everybody could have penicillin and such. Shouldn´t it be a minor wonder?

It will be worth while if it doesn't come too late in the game. Early 20th century should be OK. The WHO as a major wonder would allow other tribes to boom as well, provided they join up - eg by paying cultural points to the tribe that built the wonder. So it needn't be TOO powerful either.

	27-09-2001 19:45									#37
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How do you assume that it will be "too strong"? We don't know yet for how long this boom lasts! If it lasts only one turn, the wonder is VERY weak. If it lasts forever, however, it is VERY strong (then I would of course agree that it is "too strong"). My guess is that it will last for, say, 3-5 turns, which should make the wonder perfectly balanced IMO.
-- Roland

	27-09-2001 20:44									#38
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Perhaps its a wonder that has a smaller effect over an extended period of time. I like the idea of the WHO wonder. Longevity is a BAD name for a wonder.

	27-09-2001 22:42									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Roland Ehnström How do you assume that it will be "too strong"? We don't know yet for how long this boom lasts! If it lasts only one turn, the wonder is VERY weak. If it lasts forever, however, it is VERY strong (then I would of course agree that it is "too strong"). My guess is that it will last for, say, 3-5 turns, which should make the wonder perfectly balanced IMO. -- Roland

Don´t forget the wonder´s name is 'longevity'. From that I indeed do assume it will last longer than a few years.

	28-09-2001 22:00									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Triped Yes, but World Health Org. brings on visions of inneficient beauracracy and red tape.

WHO?

Hahahahaha. Get it? WHO? HAHAHAHAHA.

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I kill me!

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	28-09-2001 23:18									#41
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Funny! --sorta...

WHO is a good name!

FIRAXIS get a hold of your self! Longevity...

I'm sure FIRAXIS will change the name...it's just text remember...n' you could probably do it youself in 2 minutes...

	28-09-2001 23:31									#42
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How about Cure For Cancer.

Hmmm. Already taken by Civilization II.

OK! How about The Human Genome Project?

Grrrrrr. That's already in Alpha Centauri.



I got it.

Human Cloning or Organ Cloning. Ethically questionable, though.

Magic Fairy Dust?

The best one would have been the Human Genome Project, which is currently underway (mapping human DNA), but SMAC already has it.

Grand Unified Health Vaccine? Too wordy, and a little goofy sounding.

Jonah Falcon's Secret Health Sauce! THERE'S the wonder. Not that I'm not ALREADY a Wonder of the World...