14-11-2001 21:29									#31
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quote: i never did get to see though screen shots...

quote: Is there any chance of some more screen shots...

quote: damn right! A Scenario League Thread, just isn't a Scenario League Thread, without the tangy zip of screenshots...... whip

quote: Also the units.gif for people to rip off ... er, appropriate, would be handy too

What? Do you guys want screenshots or something?

Let me see what I can do....

quote: Pardon me for asking, but how near, exactly? A month? A week? A day? I'm really looking forward to this...

Well Cal, again it is hard to say... How complete is a scenario that has all things completed except 1/2 of the event scripting? I wouldnt call it 1/2 done, because the majority of the hard stuff is out of the way. BUT, the scripting is the key in this scen...if it sucks and isn't thought out properly, the player wont have any fun. So as I get info from the playtesters, i make adjustments in order to achieve a proper balance.

I am going to try to finish up another one of the phases by the end of the week, we'll see what i can do. This gets me right up to the Soviet counterattack...

You must realize that since there are multiple ends for this scenario 1)win 2)lose 3) stalemate I need to have events that will reflect all three possibilities. One player might get his arse kicked at the Soviet offensive, whilst at the very same time another player may just be finishing up the clearing of the city...or even crossing the Volga to wipe out the remnants of the 2nd Soviet Army...


-FMK.

	14-11-2001 22:29									#32
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I took a few, just as the game starts...in-game ones may come later

-FMK.

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	14-11-2001 22:30									#33
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The 'world map'.

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	14-11-2001 22:33									#34
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The game's map... zoomed out to include it all.

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	14-11-2001 22:36									#35
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As the Germans, you start with only the city of Ptomnik... with the airbases of JG3 at your disposal.

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	14-11-2001 22:49									#36
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Here is a shot of your northern kampfgruppe... all dressed up with no where to go.


(note the Soviet workers on the farms blocking your way)

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	14-11-2001 22:54									#37
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Here we see the stronghold of Mamayev Kurgan. Heavily contested during the battle...

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	14-11-2001 22:56									#38
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The nothern Industrial section of the city...just after the Luftwaffe's 1,000 bomber raid on the opening day...

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	14-11-2001 22:59									#39
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Here we see the southern defense network for holding the Germans out of the suburban section of the city...

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	14-11-2001 23:02									#40
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We see the east bank of the Volga, namely the Krasnaya Sloboda ... Artillery parks are here which rain death upon the fascist invaders...

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	15-11-2001 00:28									#41
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wow!

tell that it is going to be ready soon

	15-11-2001 06:13									#42
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This is probably a dum question FMK, but have you used any real maps of Stalingrad as reference for your scenario. Not that It really matters all that much. I just wanted to know

	15-11-2001 06:59									#43
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Well, actual road maps of Stalingrad pre or even during the war proved to be illusive. However I did get about 9 maps that cover everything from neighborhoods and districts and landmarks within the city to ones showing way outside the city itself and the surrounding areas. Here is one of them that I found to be quite useful indeed. There are others, but in the intrest of Apolyton's hurting servers I wont post them. If you are interested I can send them to you if you like. Somtimes I just had to use my imagination though, it is a game.

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	15-11-2001 10:09									#44
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i don't know what i look forward to more, opening civ3 this weekend or playing this scenario...

	15-11-2001 13:52									#45
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This looks like another killer scenario! Way to go

quote: Originally posted by H Tower i don't know what i look forward to more, opening civ3 this weekend or playing this scenario...

Civ3? Whats that?

	15-11-2001 19:25									#46
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All I can say is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME I need something new to play. Pleazzzzzzeee get this done.

	16-11-2001 08:26									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Jimmywax All I can say is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME I need something new to play. Pleazzzzzzeee get this done.

It's called Civ3 From what I've played of the scenario it's gonna be a killer! (Pun always intended) It's fast paced and fun

	18-11-2001 00:18									#48
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Whoa. this scenario looks kick asss!!! I really think the whole artillery thingy is cool.

quote: Hey Hobbes, how's your WW1 scenario going?

Well, Casey, it's going slow, but good. got any interesting ideas?

	18-11-2001 04:32									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes Well, Casey, it's going slow, but good. got any interesting ideas?

Casey?

Not really You could include the Australians winning the war in 1918 as Aussie folk law maintains we did

	18-11-2001 10:10									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Case Casey? Not really You could include the Australians winning the war in 1918 as Aussie folk law maintains we did

OTOH NZ folklore is truly accurate. We actually did win the whole war!

FMK, are those tank turrets I spied in some of your screenshots?
Reflecting the way the Sov's buried some of their tanks after they ran out of gas and used them as field guns?
Nice touch

	18-11-2001 10:36									#51
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon OTOH NZ folklore is truly accurate. We actually did win the whole war!

You know, I once heard a historian say that NZ was the only particpant which didn't claim to have been the decisive factor in winning the war. I guess he's just been proved wrong

	18-11-2001 11:26									#52
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Oh come on now, everybody knows that we won the war singlehandedly. I don't give a damn about what anybody says about us having fresh troops and all that.

P.S. Actually I believe that everyone else did all the work, just we were the straw to break the Kaiser's back and we decided to take alot of the glory.

	18-11-2001 21:00									#53
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon FMK, are those tank turrets I spied in some of your screenshots? Reflecting the way the Sov's buried some of their tanks after they ran out of gas and used them as field guns? Nice touch

Yup!

I needed to have stationary things that would continue to block the streets so the player cant use the ol' Artillery-by-Railroad trick to get through the city. T-34 turrets seemed to be fairly Stalingradesque.

-FMK.

	19-11-2001 04:12									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Case You know, I once heard a historian say that NZ was the only particpant which didn't claim to have been the decisive factor in winning the war. I guess he's just been proved wrong

Heh. I think you may have misinterpreted the if you took that seriously. lol.

	20-11-2001 07:09									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Jimmywax Oh come on now, everybody knows that we won the war singlehandedly. I don't give a damn about what anybody says about us having fresh troops and all that. P.S. Actually I believe that everyone else did all the work, just we were the straw to break the Kaiser's back and we decided to take alot of the glory.

Well, as every good Canadian knows...

I won't even try. We did have our own beach in D-Day.

	21-11-2001 10:53									#56
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D-day was ww2


stupid thanksgiving break, i get taken away from my computer and sent home for an entire week and now i'm stuck using the old computer. *grumble*

	21-11-2001 17:14									#57
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower D-day was ww2 stupid thanksgiving break, i get taken away from my computer and sent home for an entire week and now i'm stuck using the old computer. *grumble*

My point was that we were even less useful in WW1.

	22-11-2001 23:25									#58
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quote: I needed to have stationary things that would continue to block the streets

Oh thats where i went wrong, they were supposed to block my advance, well i should have been more co-operative You see i didnt believe they were for that purpose so because i didnt believe in them they faded out of existence

But i will say when this scen comes out everyone will love it.

	23-11-2001 12:11									#59
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Actually I agree with grothgar, those turrets arent very much of a obstacle, one attacked with virtually any unit takes them down...
I usually do it by stuka

	24-11-2001 01:52									#60
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Alright then guys... I'll boost up the T-34 turret stats. I just didnt want it to be boring having to attack stationary targets that were too strong. Why did no one tell me they were too easy in the playtesting?!?!

-FMK.