14-10-2001 03:30									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Crouchback Hubba Hubba. Great find V_STEELE, I want it now. David Wait a minute, isn't this screen a wonder movie dialogue. But they're not supposed to exist.

its a wonder popup. not a movie.

	14-10-2001 03:31									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Pembleton Actually the screens must definitely be old since the first screen only has up to 7 opponents.

I don't see an option to select the number of opponents, so I would assume its on a previous screen and the person selected 7 opponents.

	14-10-2001 03:35									#33
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http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img10.jpg

The advisor says the Greeks are annoyed with you. No shit. The Romans and Greeks are at war.

	14-10-2001 03:36									#34
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dp

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at least they tell you "useful" info as Dan put it.

	14-10-2001 03:39									#36
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http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img11.jpg

They're researching 4 techs simultaneously? Or are they just queued?

	14-10-2001 03:40									#37
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http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img11.jpg

Check this out. At the bottom, it shows polytheism with a picture of an elephant... is this old? If it isn't the Indians only need to research mysticism and then polytheism to get their elephants, and they don't need any resources either...

	14-10-2001 03:42									#38
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http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img14.jpg

Let's hope all the Wonders can fit in one screen. I plan on building all the Wonders in my capital. Any foreign city that attempts to steal a Wonder will be destroyed.

	14-10-2001 03:46									#39
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	14-10-2001 03:46									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Executor http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img11.jpg They're researching 4 techs simultaneously? Or are they just queued?

I believe that they are researching the green, and the yellow techs are techs that can be researched.

	14-10-2001 04:12									#41
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OK, the screens look great now!

IF, repeat IF, the gameplay is as polished as the graphics, I will be content.

Note the term content.

To actually make me happy, the minimum requirement would be an Ai that is very hard to beat on Emperor and near unbeatable on Deity. We will have some qualified opinions on this in 2 months at the earliest, so still no reason to get over-excited. As far as we know as yet, the graphics could still be the only thing they got right.

And no, I donīt buy the 'benefit of the doubt' argument. That argument should be rightfully dead since the MP debacle, to say the least.

	14-10-2001 04:15									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Akron http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img11.jpg Check this out. At the bottom, it shows polytheism with a picture of an elephant... is this old? If it isn't the Indians only need to research mysticism and then polytheism to get their elephants, and they don't need any resources either...

No, that's just the icon for the advance.

	14-10-2001 04:32									#43
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I appreciate the pictures and all, but why doesn't Apolyton get some of these treats? Surely there is no site on the planet as dedicated to Civ, and with as large Civ fanbase.

Bkeela.

	14-10-2001 04:46									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Bkeela I appreciate the pictures and all, but why doesn't Apolyton get some of these treats? Surely there is no site on the planet as dedicated to Civ, and with as large Civ fanbase. Bkeela.

Infogrames/Firaxis are probably trying to reach out to communities that wouldn't ordinarily hear of the game let alone buy it, like multiplayers.

David

	14-10-2001 04:52									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Crouchback Infogrames/Firaxis are probably trying to reach out to communities that wouldn't ordinarily hear of the game let alone buy it, like multiplayers. David

Now David, play nice.

But getting back to the subject at hand - I believe we all need to try to attend the Chat session scheduled my Markos (MarkG) for tomorrow at 4:00 PM Eastern US Time. I believe information will be released during this chat session involving Civ3. I have no definate information concerning this, it's just a personal analysis of the various indicators.

	14-10-2001 05:35									#46
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Well these look astounding, even if they are not totally finished screens. And not long to go either. Damn, I am excited

	14-10-2001 05:47									#47
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can't . . . wait. . . . must . . . buy . . .

	14-10-2001 06:09									#48
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i bet joan makes alot of friends in the ancient period

these shots are great!

	14-10-2001 07:11									#49
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In the city view at http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img14.jpg the city wall looks incomplete. Could it be the result of canons damaging the city wall?

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	14-10-2001 19:27									#50
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The settler is really expensive, (settler 4 turns, worker 1 turn)
as you see in this screenshot
http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...1500/s_img8.jpg

	14-10-2001 19:28									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Takeshi In the city view at http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img14.jpg the city wall looks incomplete. Could it be the result of canons damaging the city wall?

Yeah, they do look beaten up. Wonder how much it costs to repair them.

	14-10-2001 19:29									#52
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Oops, false link, here is the right one
http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img12.jpg

	14-10-2001 19:52									#53
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You're right cyril25376! It costs a mint! Wow! As much as the temple! Tough choice... do you in crease culture or expand?

Also... you'll notice that the commerce bars (in green) are showing that everything in that city (10 per turn) are going toward science. I wonder if you can set those rates independently per city or whether it's nation wide settings. It's probably nation wide, but I wonder why that would be shown in the city view...

Was it like that in CIV II?

	14-10-2001 20:20									#54
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are those "build times" in the queue relative to the current production saved up in building the settler? because a worker whtt costs < 9 shields isn't too cool...

	14-10-2001 20:39									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Takeshi In the city view at http://www.multiplayer.it/show.php3...500/s_img14.jpg the city wall looks incomplete. Could it be the result of canons damaging the city wall?

This picture looks like the city would be pre-metallurgy, so I don't think cannons...maybe catapults.

However, my first instinct was that the city walls were under construction. So that's a question for Dan: Will city views show improvements under construction rather than just having them suddenly appear?

	14-10-2001 20:50									#56
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screens look absolutely gorgeous. so those whining about crappy graphics need not bother anymore

	15-10-2001 03:06									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin You're right cyril25376! It costs a mint! Wow! As much as the temple! Tough choice... do you in crease culture or expand?

Huh? Settlers did always cost at least as much as a temple.

From the screenshot the costs in CivIII are pretty clear:

Settler: 60 shields
Worker: 30 shields
Warrior: 30 shields
Archer: 40 shields
Spearman: 40 shields
Catapult: 40 shields
Barracks: 80 shields
Granary: 120 shields
Temple: 60 shields

Most items are somewhat more expensive than before, especially the Granary.

How did I figure that out? Think a little. If you want to be competitive at CivIII, you will have to start early.

	15-10-2001 03:37									#58
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If the pyramids still give granaries in civ 3, they will be even more valuable, given the high cost of granaries. But I'm not sure they will still have that effect.

	15-10-2001 04:02									#59
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From the above we can also deduce that, in the early game, it will take a 6 shields producing city 250 years to train a Warrior, and 1.000 years to build a Granary.

With numbers such as these, rush strategies should not be much of a problem.

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune From the above we can also deduce that, in the early game, it will take a 6 shields producing city 250 years to train a Warrior, and 1.000 years to build a Granary.

Um, I could be insane, or your math might be a little off.