19-10-2001 02:46									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune "We must attack them to prevent them from creating cultural achievements that might threaten our paradigms." Hey, wait, now I understand why the US are so warlike.

Then why do we (the U.S.) always end up interfering in third world countries, instead of invading France or Italy or something (or Austria )? Personally I think we need to reserve military force for extremities--like this one--and rely upon other means for other tasks, unless as part of UN peacekeeping missions.

But our interferences do tend to revolve around things that "might threaten our paradigms", i.e., democracy. Whether or not this has helped anything is an open question. I think that, since WW2, our culture has helped promote democracy just a bit more than our government's blundering has inhibited it at this point.

	19-10-2001 03:25									#32
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Damn, I hate to try to bring threats back on-topic, but a valid point was raised over the AI.

Will the AI understand what is happening when your culture is eating away at his Empire?

I hated the MoO2 AI for not realizing that giving away all the small colonies to me as he made them would doom him real fast.

The argument can also be made, that a high/dominant culture can cause other to dislike you. Look at French attitudes to English/American influence on their culture. They don't like it, and have gone to the point of pasing laws to prevent what they see as 'bad-influences' on their language and way of life.

Because the effect of culture is so important in this game it is IMHO _very_ important that the AI knows how to handle a situation where you are 'peacefully' eating up his Empire piece by piece (no pun intended). And I'm not convinced having a 'high' culture is a blessing in diplomatic negotiations in reality, but that is another subject...

-Alech

	19-10-2001 03:34									#33
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Hamburgers were a Roman, not American, invention.

	19-10-2001 04:54									#34
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No a Garrison cann't stop a city from joining you. They can only stop citzen's from indivdualy escaping and joining your city.

	19-10-2001 05:21									#35
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quote: And Yin, what is that thing?

I don't know. I suggest we take over Chicago and examine it more closely. My theory is that it's a nuclear missile disguised as art...clever buggers.

	19-10-2001 05:29									#36
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 I don't know. I suggest we take over Chicago and examine it more closely. My theory is that it's a nuclear missile disguised as art...clever buggers.

I wouldn't do that, Yin. Sounds like a super-bad version of the Trojan Horse in that case. And besides, Chicago (despite what some people may believe (though I don't know what people)) is part of the United States... we can't take it over.

And I'm not you have the facts right about that one, Dennis...

	19-10-2001 05:34									#37
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What if we put a little extra 'mood altering' oregano in the Deep Dish Pizzas? Convince them to give up Chicago without a fight? Or at least to put Manny the Missile to sleep?

	19-10-2001 05:40									#38
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I'm telling you Yin, we can't take a city already within our borders!

What would you want with Chicago?

Mmmmm, what I wouldn't do with some mood-altering pizza, deep-dish, who cares!

	19-10-2001 05:52									#39
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Oh, sorry. Forgot to mention: I'm launching my attack from Korea!

	19-10-2001 05:55									#40
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Well then that's...
Why??? What's in Chicago besides pizza that you can have delivered anyway???

	19-10-2001 07:17									#41
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This thread is starting to sound Borg-esque......

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND WE WILL ADD YOUR CULTURAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN!

	19-10-2001 08:06									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Ozymandous Umm, sorry to break it to you, but when was the last time the US invaded someone who didn't attack us first? Hmmm?

Vietnam -there never was a Tonkin gulf incident-, Grenada, Panama, Iraq -their claims to Kuwait were justified, and besides, it was none of the U.S.´business, Somalia, Yugoslavia -no, it was not because of the KLA, hate to break it to you, but the US produced the KLA-, ...

	19-10-2001 08:16									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Stryfe Then why do we (the U.S.) always end up interfering in third world countries, instead of invading France or Italy or something (or Austria)

Fair question. My answer is: The US realize they do need some allies -particularly, if they mistreat everybody else.

As to democracy: The US have always promoted democracy, where it helped their interests -such as in Eastern Europe-, and promoted fascism, where democracy hurt their interests -such as in Latin America, most of the time. I can see no overall bias in favour of democracy in US foreign policy.

	19-10-2001 11:02									#44
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I keep coming back to this thread in the hopes that some legitimate CivIII discussion has started up again, but it looks like there is still this BU||$h|T still going on.

Markos- please close this thread!@!

	19-10-2001 11:15									#45
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quote: I keep coming back to this thread in the hopes that some legitimate CivIII discussion has started up again, but it looks like there is still this BU||$h|T still going on.

I tried to stop it (read my last post); for I thought this was a 'good' thread. Plus, in my post before that one I gave my 2 cents on the topic.

quote: Markos- please close this thread!@!

I concur, unless some radical on topic discussion occurs here soon.