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albiedamned
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Ellicott City, MD
Sep 2001
time: 00:15
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Originally posted by SerapisIV
Here's the first screenshot of pollution?
Avault: Pollution Next to London
Looks like a mudslide more then pollution, when i think pollution I think darker and blacker, but I'm just guessing. |
I believe this is not pollution. I saw a modern era screenshot a week or two ago that had what looked like thin black clouds over squares, and the consensus here was that was pollution. So I guess that orange stuff near London is some sort of resource, but I'm not sure which one.
Also, I believe we've seen in other shots that cities which are producing pollution have a haze/smog cloud over them on the game map. Since we don't see that over London, I'm guessing it's not currently polluting.
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Skanky Burns
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Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:15
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Originally posted by Pembleton
Actually, because cities will revert back to their "old" culture if the rating in that city is much higher, it will be quite difficult if not almost impossible to hold on to that particular city (since it will have a huge culture rating) if you attack it without defeating the surrounding cities first. And if you've already successfully attacked the surrounding cities, the game is most likely over before taking the wonder city anyway. |
Holding onto the city is irrelevant here. If you're going for that culture victory, chances are that you are relying on those wonders producing 100 CP each, but after the city has been occupied, even for only one turn, the CP production is cut. If you regain the city, each wonder will only produce about 10 CP, which is a significant set-back. Once a city is conquered, it loses any age bonuses.
About the AVaults list, congratulations everyone involved 
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El hidalgo
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Originally posted by HalfLotus
I believe all scientific techs need to be discovered before moving to next era. "Artistic" techs (writing,literature,etc.) can be skipped. Sid said this in an interview. No, Im not going to get the link. |
I see your general point, but I wouldn't consider 'writing' to be a purely artistic tech that can be skipped. I don't think your science would progress very far without writing.
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Pembleton
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Cyberspace
Apr 1999
time: 23:15
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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Holding onto the city is irrelevant here. If you're going for that culture victory, chances are that you are relying on those wonders producing 100 CP each, but after the city has been occupied, even for only one turn, the CP production is cut. If you regain the city, each wonder will only produce about 10 CP, which is a significant set-back. Once a city is conquered, it loses any age bonuses.
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Edit: Never mind, now I understand what you're trying to say. I misunderstood it at first.
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SerapisIV
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Hartford, CT, USA
Feb 2001
time: 00:15
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Originally posted by albiedamned
I believe this is not pollution. I saw a modern era screenshot a week or two ago that had what looked like thin black clouds over squares, and the consensus here was that was pollution. So I guess that orange stuff near London is some sort of resource, but I'm not sure which one.
Also, I believe we've seen in other shots that cities which are producing pollution have a haze/smog cloud over them on the game map. Since we don't see that over London, I'm guessing it's not currently polluting. |
Yes, but that is cities producing pollution, not actual polluted tiles. You're speaking of the PC.IGN screenshot of Rome with black smoke rising out of it. However, that most likely only signified the presence of a factory or the production of pollution not actually polluted tiles. I think this is the actual polluted tile, not just a city getting ready to pollute a tile.
It is definitely not a resource, even oil doesn't look that nasty.
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RobC
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Originally posted by SerapisIV
Here's the first screenshot of pollution?
Avault: Pollution Next to London
Looks like a mudslide more then pollution, when i think pollution I think darker and blacker, but I'm just guessing. |
Actually that orange goo looks pretty nasty -- radioactive material spill? Quick, call the hazmat teams!!!
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albiedamned
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Ellicott City, MD
Sep 2001
time: 00:15
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Originally posted by SerapisIV
Yes, but that is cities producing pollution, not actual polluted tiles. You're speaking of the PC.IGN screenshot of Rome with black smoke rising out of it. However, that most likely only signified the presence of a factory or the production of pollution not actually polluted tiles. I think this is the actual polluted tile, not just a city getting ready to pollute a tile.
It is definitely not a resource, even oil doesn't look that nasty. |
I was speaking of both. Here is the thread where we were discussing a screenshot which we suspected showed polluted squares. As you can see, it looks nothing like the orange blob near London! So the question is, if this black "shadow" thing is pollution, then what is the orange blob? And if the orange blob is pollution, then what is the black shadow thing?
Or maybe the answer is that the black shadow screenshot is from an earlier build and they changed it to the orange blob thing!
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Bleyn
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ROTFLHAO!!!!!
I always find it amusing when a webmaster forgets how many other people out there know how websites work, and leave pages they didn't want posted where others can get at them :-)
Now, I don't suppose any of you thought to try going after the review before they figured out their opps? I'm guessing nobody got it or it wasn't up yet, or someone would of said something about having it, but I had to ask anyway.
*Sigh* Guess we'll just have to wait to see what sort of tidbits are in there we could have been pouring over now.
C'est La Vie.
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dennis580
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I thin thier was a couple of posters whi checked for a review, but they said it wasn't up yet. I guess they probaly haven't had a enough time yet to post a through review.
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SerapisIV
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Hartford, CT, USA
Feb 2001
time: 00:15
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Originally posted by albiedamned
I was speaking of both. Here is the thread where we were discussing a screenshot which we suspected showed polluted squares. As you can see, it looks nothing like the orange blob near London! So the question is, if this black "shadow" thing is pollution, then what is the orange blob? And if the orange blob is pollution, then what is the black shadow thing?
Or maybe the answer is that the black shadow screenshot is from an earlier build and they changed it to the orange blob thing! |
Whoops, missed that part. I was talking of a different screenshot, from the PC.IGN preview.
I'm gonna believe the new screenshots are the final pollution and the earlier screenshot was beta graphics. I say this because AVault appears ready to print a review, so I'm assuming their screenshots come from the final release game. Another possibility is that the pollution is animated, and therefore changed colors. (Making it even nastier looking. Maybe the workers cleaning it up will put Bio Suits on,  , doubt it)
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albiedamned
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Ellicott City, MD
Sep 2001
time: 00:15
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Yeah, static screen shots don't really portray animated stuff well. Maybe the orange blob we see is just one frame in a pollution animation. In fact, maybe the black shadow from the other screen shot is part of the same animation!
We'll know next week, right?!
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dainbramaged13
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Dumbass
Mar 2000
time: 00:15
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I agree with provost from the other thread.. its gotta be just a crease in the paper
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