31-10-2001 00:50									#31
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Are there any changes being planned to cope with the increase in traffic? This is starting to get annoying.

	31-10-2001 01:13									#32
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You do realizing that closing the OT due to high newbie traffic can only result in one to two things:

a) OTers plotting to remove the newbie menace for once and for all.
b) OTers going away, and newbies that weren't going to stay replacing them, then an owo-style collapse a couple months down the line.

	31-10-2001 01:16									#33
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Well said, Victor.

	31-10-2001 01:25									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis This is just outrageous... blame the newbies! (and afterwards turn the 'b' in blame to an 'f')

Flame the newfies???

When you compare to other fan sites (for games with much broader appeal), 500 active users are nothing.

	31-10-2001 01:35									#35
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quote: Originally posted by drake People that come here <b>every day</b> and post <b>every day</b> are getting snubbed for a bunch of un-registered civ3 bandwagoners who will leave as soon as the novelty wears off......

i wonder if the fact that that was not out intention matters.....

	31-10-2001 02:19									#36
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well, it doesnt matter to me, because i'm not one of them hard core ot types.....

But you guys clearly chose where your priority lied....and if thats in appealing to the people who could turn a buck or two for you, i can respect that....

Cant speak for everyone else tho.........

	31-10-2001 02:26									#37
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quote: Originally posted by drake But you guys clearly chose where your priority lied....and if thats in appealing to the people who could turn a buck or two for you, i can respect that....

well if you believe that "newbies" are more eager to follow the requests of the "support apolyton" text lines(under the ads) than i guess you have a point....

	31-10-2001 02:59									#38
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The server strain might not have been intentional, but other forums could have been closed. The SMAC forums? Civ 2?

I'd suggest commandeering the "Dinosaurs!" forum, but I suspect I'd get banned for it. So instead I'll just suggest renaming OT as "The Expendable Forum" or "The Vaguely Embarrassing Thing".

	31-10-2001 03:51									#39
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I suppose you could argue that, but this snubbing of the OTers... (shakes his head).

Steve, there's a reason I don't post at any other sites like that.

	31-10-2001 04:50									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny The server strain might not have been intentional, but other forums could have been closed. The SMAC forums? Civ 2?

so you're saying that closing the smac forums would have made a big difference in the traffic?

	31-10-2001 06:12									#41
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I don't mind too much. It may drive away the spammer types. Although I could be wrong since I'm still posting

	31-10-2001 08:14									#42
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quote: Originally posted by drake People that come here <b>every day</b> and post <b>every day</b> are getting snubbed for a bunch of un-registered civ3 bandwagoners who will leave as soon as the novelty wears off......

	31-10-2001 08:16									#43
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I have an idea! When the OT is closed; reroute the posters to the OT
of

CGN
FreefireZone
CivFanatics
or
ACOL

!

	31-10-2001 08:34									#44
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NO! Not ACOL! Eeevil lurks there.

	31-10-2001 08:59									#45
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud I have an idea! When the OT is closed; reroute the posters to the OT of CGN FreefireZone CivFanatics or ACOL !

Don't forget PROT! Its the OT's love child

	31-10-2001 09:25									#46
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Nah, re-routing to Newsmax

	31-10-2001 20:16									#47
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I don't mind the OT temp closing as a stop gap measure, but I really hope that's all it is. Please tell me you're working on the capacity issue. PLEASE

But the server busy messages are REALLLLLY starting to drive me crazy. It's almost time to release the Ferrets. I'd hate to see some of the new people be chased away out of frustration. We always need new blood. And most of them will eventually check out the OT for some well deserved razing.

RAH

	31-10-2001 20:43									#48
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Oh god no!!!



OT closed I was almost at the point of suicide

	31-10-2001 20:51									#49
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Mark,

what about closing the chat? I can see the rationale for closing OT vs Civ3. But that chat is allegedly a resource hog. Does chat have priotity over OT?

Also y'all could see this coming for months. I'm dissapointed that there was no contingency plan...and that DanQ's response was basically along the lines of "let's wait a few months and see if things go back to normal"

	31-10-2001 21:31									#50
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quote: Originally posted by GP Mark, what about closing the chat? I can see the rationale for closing OT vs Civ3. But that chat is allegedly a resource hog. Does chat have priotity over OT? Also y'all could see this coming for months. I'm dissapointed that there was no contingency plan...and that DanQ's response was basically along the lines of "let's wait a few months and see if things go back to normal"

Well, the chat is still closed after the party, so he might have decided that.

	01-11-2001 00:38									#51
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<I>and that DanQ's response was basically along the lines of "let's wait a few months and see if things go back to normal"</I>

It most absolutely was not, GP. It is being re-evaluated on a daily basis. We are not talking about months here... I would anticipate we're only looking at about a week give or take a few days.

We thank you all for your continued patience and understanding.

----------------
Dan; Apolyton CS

	01-11-2001 01:25									#52
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quote: Originally posted by DanQ <I>and that DanQ's response was basically along the lines of "let's wait a few months and see if things go back to normal"</I> It most absolutely was not, GP. It is being re-evaluated on a daily basis. We are not talking about months here... I would anticipate we're only looking at about a week give or take a few days. We thank you all for your continued patience and understanding. ---------------- Dan; Apolyton CS

1. "constant evaluation" now, is inferior to anticipation of events and contingency planning.

2. If traffic stays heavy for the forseeable future, what is your plan, Dan? Will you start figuring it out after a week has gone by?

	01-11-2001 01:51									#53
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Dan...don't get all flusterred by my sarcasm...that is meant to give the subject some spice...to inject a little humor into what is a sad situation...and to make you think.

Seriously, though. Your response is along the lines of "We'll wait to see if demand goes down."

It could be longer than you think before traffic goes down. Civ3 is releasing on NOv16th in Europe. We could be heavy traffic for the next 6 weeks. And anyway...don't you want to accomodate new users? Just mend the fences with Gamestats and have them give us some surge volume.

	01-11-2001 02:14									#54
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quote: Originally posted by GP Also y'all could see this coming for months. I'm dissapointed that there was no contingency plan...

well i often am very dissapointed by our ctr but you dont see me complaining, do you?

hopefully you'll enjoy my sarcasm....

	01-11-2001 03:10									#55
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Mark.

1. What planning was done for the increased traffic. What were the estimates? What were the options considered? What are you currently looking at?

	01-11-2001 03:19									#56
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<I>Just mend the fences with Gamestats</I>

There are no fences to be mended.

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	01-11-2001 05:07									#57
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quote: Originally posted by GP 1. What planning was done for the increased traffic.

we prayed to Sid

quote: What were the estimates?

that Sid will show his mercy cause we had faith

quote: What were the options considered?

to drop on our knees or not

quote: What are you currently looking at?

my monitor

	01-11-2001 06:05									#58
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Praise Sid!

	01-11-2001 09:46									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny The server strain might not have been intentional, but other forums could have been closed. The SMAC forums? Civ 2? I'd suggest commandeering the "Dinosaurs!" forum, but I suspect I'd get banned for it. So instead I'll just suggest renaming OT as "The Expendable Forum" or "The Vaguely Embarrassing Thing".

Why the AC forums. There is a thriving community with actual on going fiction in them..

	01-11-2001 10:12									#60
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Could close the Mac ones, its not like anyone would use a Mac anyways.