12-11-2001 12:27									#31
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso mark, i also played greeks - are there any particular civs that really hated you? americans wanted to scorch every town i had. i am just wondering if there is something preprogrammed in their attitude.

not sure, although in both games i ended up having the french on my side and the egyptians against me

	12-11-2001 12:30									#32
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me 2. in both games

	12-11-2001 12:38									#33
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still, it was two different cases: in the first game they egyptians didnt choose to hate, they just happened to be in the same continent with me and they were blocking my expansion

in the second though, it was just me, the french and the egyptians, we had never been in war and i had actually protection pacts with both when the egyptians decided to brake it

	12-11-2001 18:14									#34
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"day 4" is posted
http://www.apolyton.net/civ3/reviews/apolyton/day4/

	12-11-2001 18:33									#35
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Hey, I got my own tag! Anyway, good series, Markos. Nice ending graphics ...

	12-11-2001 18:47									#36
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It looks like some of the multimedia/eye rewards were improved but some problems were present. In Civ2, it was painfully obvious that the Spaceship part of the game was not well done. The build screen was ugly, the in-flight screen looked like 1982 computer graphics (although the landing at AC was nice), and the manual and strat guide and civopedia were all missing explanations of how the SS part of the game worked.

In Civ3, it looks like they've done some nice things but still have some holes. The replay is good. The SS build screen is better, but the landing sequence is worse. And all the wonder movies are missing (downgrade from Civ2 and SMAC. And really unfortunate...for non-hard core gamers, these types of reward are very nice.) Also, looks like they went pretty cheap on the diplomatic vitctory screens. Would have though they would give you more eye candy. Somethings like what Markos suggests. Since you have all the leaders art, use it better to create some type of fun conclusion.

	12-11-2001 19:40									#37
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I'm joining the others to thank you for the good summarized job you have done with your impressions, Markos. Good visuals and comments, just to the point.

The spaceship screen is one of my favorites too, and as I already said elsewhere and in my review, the UN election is chunky on the other hand, without any graphical detail - this is a drawback. Like me many of us seem to feel not really rewarded when we complete a game by any other victory than Space. I don't think the sole reason to avoid a second disc at release is sufficient to justify this. NOT A SINGLE VOICEOVER in the game??? I never saw this in any decent & recent game... Perhaps in an upcoming expansion, extra $$$$$.

	13-11-2001 00:01									#38
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hmmm +8 that score will I assume go down once I play the game

	13-11-2001 04:51									#39
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I just looked at one of your end game screens, and saw you listed as "the Cruel".

What's up with that? I thought they confirmed a few months ago that we get the "Dan Quayle" screen, not the "forkbeard" screen.

did they change their mind at the last minute?

	13-11-2001 10:12									#40
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The one thing that was disappointing was that the UN was only used for the diplomatic victory. I can understand why they would do this, since it's built near the end of the game, but I feel it would be better if it came earlier on and allowed more global diplomatic options (pollution agreements, etc).

	13-11-2001 13:38									#41
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quote: Originally posted by GP The SS build screen is better, but the landing sequence is worse.

you mean takeoff sequence? i thought it was absolutely gorgeous....i was really impressed
there is no landing sequence, IIRC

	14-11-2001 04:36									#42
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missing = crappy

	14-11-2001 14:06									#43
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hahaa, this game is broken

	14-11-2001 21:54									#44
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso hahaa, this game is broken

I'm sorry your game is broken. What's wrong?

	15-11-2001 08:15									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Master Marcus The spaceship screen is one of my favorites too, and as I already said elsewhere and in my review, the UN election is chunky on the other hand, without any graphical detail - this is a drawback. Like me many of us seem to feel not really rewarded when we complete a game by any other victory than Space. I don't think the sole reason to avoid a second disc at release is sufficient to justify this. NOT A SINGLE VOICEOVER in the game??? I never saw this in any decent & recent game... Perhaps in an upcoming expansion, extra $$$$$.

God I hope that there aren't any voice overs, my computer already slows to a crawl when I have the music on in the late industrial age...forget about enemy unit animations.

	15-11-2001 16:12									#46
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The rough edges all look to me like bits that were intended to be completed but got pruned back to a few text windows because there was insufficient time to complete the art and test the resulting code. Something extra for them to include in the MGE pack if they want to make it a heavyweight rather than bare bones enhancement.

	16-11-2001 00:22									#47
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I also hope that they do fix some of the frills/ambiance gaps. They didn't with Civ2 though. As techies, (and marketers) there interests will lie more with true added features like MP and scenarios than things like the missing wonder movies and poor endgame screens.

	16-11-2001 05:18									#48
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sorry for not posting more impressions. i have actually been playing civ3 instead

i'll hopefully post the final part of the impressions tomorrow and then start working on the full review...

	17-11-2001 07:25									#49
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Markos, please post more soon. with PICTURES!!

	17-11-2001 07:40									#50
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GP why dont you buy the game then you can look at all the nice pictures you want

	17-11-2001 09:41									#51
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I need to buy a new computer.

Plus, I might get addicted to it...

	18-11-2001 00:08									#52
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Addicted? Nah...
I went to bed last night cant be addicted.
I gotta go umm... do something over there now... bye.

	19-11-2001 06:08									#53
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day 5 !

http://apolyton.net/civ3/reviews/apolyton/day5/

	19-11-2001 06:35									#54
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still can't believe that you can't bribe for votes and i really can't believe that they didn't make the voting graphical in any way. but it's true.


minor things, though.

	19-11-2001 07:57									#55
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Markos you say "no rubber, no fuel cells" instead of URANIUM, 'cause you need uranium to make fuel cells & space victory.

	19-11-2001 15:50									#56
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'give them some entertainment' basically takes one guy off the land and puts him/her to britney/groucho mood
anyoen found any use for specialists?

	19-11-2001 15:56									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Master Marcus Markos you say "no rubber, no fuel cells" instead of URANIUM, 'cause you need uranium to make fuel cells & space victory.

yeah i forgot to add a note that i wasnt sure which resource it was....

	19-11-2001 20:02									#58
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Won't "give them some entertainment" simply turn a worker into an entertainer?

	21-11-2001 11:20									#59
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Nicely done Mark G.

The idea of a review consisting of a long series of screenshots with commentary is clever and should definitely be adopted by professional game sites to supplement their main text-reviews.

Why is it that the "professional" reviewers never come up with such ideas?

	21-11-2001 12:51									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Kautilya The idea of a review consisting of a long series of screenshots with commentary is clever and should definitely be adopted by professional game sites to supplement their main text-reviews.

wait to see what i'm working on for the full review