19-11-2001 02:53									#31
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quote: Originally posted by bogi the word slav came from the word Slaw. That usally ended in slavic last names. I.E Boguslaw Wadyslaw Slaw means Word.

This may be true, but I don't see how it is exclusive with the English word slave originating from Slav, which in turn has its roots in Slaw.

	19-11-2001 06:35									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Roman This may be true, but I don't see how it is exclusive with the English word slave originating from Slav, which in turn has its roots in Slaw.

Slave: from Mediaeval English, sclave , from Old French, esclave , from Provencal esclau identical with the ethnic name Sclavus SLAV, the Slavonic races having been reduced to a servile state by conquest. Hence SLA.V ery. Source: The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology.
It may sound pejorative, but it simply reflects the trading practices of people such as the Vikings, who would ship slaves from Russia and Finland (yes, I know they're not Slavs) overland or down river to slave markets in Baghdad along with furs, ivory and amber, in exchange for the Arab bullion and rock crystals and other trade goods found in many Scandinavian Viking graves. I shouldn't take it as an insult, the Dutch come off much worse in English phraseology: Dutch courage, Dutch auction, Dutch uncle, Double Dutch....and they were our allies!

	19-11-2001 13:27									#33
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Look at the Slavs come out of the woodwork to "defend their honour".

Oh, and some people here have bass-ackwards reasoning. I didn't say that "Slav" comes from "slave"; I said that "slave" came from "Slav".

Don't be so friggin' sensitive. I hardly own any Slavic servants any more.

	19-11-2001 14:06									#34
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quote: Originally posted by bogi pure bullshit the word slav came from the word Slaw. That usally ended in slavic last names. I.E Boguslaw Wadyslaw Slaw means Word.

Rather "Famous"
Boguslaw=famous to be pious
Wladyslaw=famous of his rules
Etc.
It doesn't work with "Slav" enlightens...

	19-11-2001 20:20									#35
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Oh, and some people here have bass-ackwards reasoning. I didn't say that "Slav" comes from "slave"; I said that "slave" came from "Slav".

Well, that's exactly why I said that the word Slav coming from Slaw is not mutually exclusive with the word slave coming from the word Slav.

	19-11-2001 20:24									#36
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Don't be so friggin' sensitive. I hardly own any Slavic servants any more.

I think I am deeply insulted. I will sue you for xenophobia and racism. Then I will proceed to extract vast amounts of reparations from the Arabic and Western nations for enslaving my ancestors several hundred years ago.

Rather like some activists are trying to do with the US.

	20-11-2001 23:15									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Roman I think I am deeply insulted. I will sue you for xenophobia and racism. Then I will proceed to extract vast amounts of reparations from the Arabic and Western nations for enslaving my ancestors several hundred years ago. Rather like some activists are trying to do with the US.

...To the U.S., and Britian, and France, and Spain, and the Dutch, and the EU (which wasn't even around back then)... Do you notice that these "activists" aren't talking about the Arab slave traders or the African slave traders who all had big roles in the slave trade. I guess they only want reparations from rich countries so poor but guilty countries get to walk away Scot-free.

	21-11-2001 01:13									#38
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Could someone say me why my post asking info about slavs is the upper post and til there after weeks?

	21-11-2001 02:48									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin ...To the U.S., and Britian, and France, and Spain, and the Dutch, and the EU (which wasn't even around back then)... Do you notice that these "activists" aren't talking about the Arab slave traders or the African slave traders who all had big roles in the slave trade. I guess they only want reparations from rich countries so poor but guilty countries get to walk away Scot-free.

Exactly, I think it's plain ridiculous. What the heck, think how long ago slavery was abolished. Just how far back are we prepared to go to compensate for crimes of our ancestors against ancestors of others? Maybe, we should ask for compensation from the Mongols for their invasions under the Genghis Khan.

	24-11-2001 08:45									#40
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So with my Polish background, am I entitled to reparations when they get enacted sometime down the road? I can trace all my problems directly to the fact that my ancestors where held as slaves! No lie! No, really!

	24-11-2001 14:40									#41
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quote: Originally posted by FrankBullit So with my Polish background, am I entitled to reparations when they get enacted sometime down the road? I can trace all my problems directly to the fact that my ancestors where held as slaves! No lie! No, really!

Yes you can. But only if I get a cut. :-)

	24-11-2001 22:38									#42
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How about compensating everybody in the world?

	25-11-2001 20:10									#43
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I shouldn't take it as an insult, the Dutch come off much worse in English phraseology: Dutch courage, Dutch auction, Dutch uncle, Double Dutch....and they were our allies!

Let's not forget French leave, Welshing on bets and Indian givers

	28-11-2001 20:17									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Barnacle Bill Let's not forget French leave, Welshing on bets and Indian givers