15-11-2001 05:06									#31
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quote: It's a matter of shame IMO that the majority of the English (I won't speak for other anglophones) can't make themselves understood on even a basic level in any tongue bar their own.

Why? We only need to speak English because everyone else speaks it anyway.

	15-11-2001 05:09									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Infatuation Wouldn't Spain like to be the 51st?

We are a very traditional nation, and would never fold, not even to the great United States.

	15-11-2001 06:16									#33
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Foetus yes yes the Brits speak their own kind of ingles which dont make no sense, real english is spoken by Americans and I practice the speech good

	15-11-2001 06:36									#34
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CyberShy, yes, you have improved alot actually.

Snapcase I'd say speaks (or at least, writes, since i've never heard him speak) the best english of any foreigner that I know of here. It's all to easy to forget that he's not from the US, he writes like a college educated native english speaker.

	15-11-2001 06:37									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Bah! We have the best of both the old and the new world. Why would we want to choose between them? This is a great country, you have no idea how good it is to live here.

I had fun when I went through Oz. It does have some interesting aspects of both new and old. I'd say the landscape is more wild and New World than the US. But the culture/people are more Old World than the US.

	15-11-2001 07:40									#36
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Most of the non-native speakers speak english better than I do and I'm supposedly the best in my school so .......

Ecthellions posts all seem to have great length at least.

I'm gonna have to put my vote for Giancarlo though - He's the only one I've noticed as having major oddities in his grammar but recently they've been cropping up less and less which denotes improvement.

What exactly is a modal tense anyway?

	15-11-2001 12:04									#37
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ottok

	15-11-2001 12:54									#38
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You guys need to go over to the AC fiction forum. There are posters with English as a second language posting stories. Not just chit chat.

	15-11-2001 15:07									#39
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quote: CyberShy, yes, you have improved alot actually

from what to what ?
An absolute disaster in english to someone that speaks english like a 3 year old chinese kid ?

Or from almost perfect to perfect

	15-11-2001 16:43									#40
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Yes, very good CyberShy but I can't remember what your English was like before.

And Snapcase goes to uni in York so I would expect his English to be of a high standard, and I can also account for his spoken English.

OttoK eh? Now there's a blast from the past

	15-11-2001 16:55									#41
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If the question was about the best non-native English speaker here, Snapcase would get my vote. No doubt about it. Raging Mouse would come to the second place.¨

About who has improved the most... Well, I think I have got a lot better myself (though my style still tends to be quite dry), but as I am not egotistic enough to vote myself, Andz83/Chaos Warrior/Ecthelion gets my vote.

Or ottok, provided that he's a DL of Stefu and we can count Stefu's current skills as his skills...

	16-11-2001 14:10									#42
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The thread title is quite piss poor as far as English goes

	16-11-2001 15:27									#43
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quote: The thread title is quite piss poor as far as English goes

It should've been: [dutch attempt to speak complex english] Which foreigner's english has improved most ?

	16-11-2001 18:50									#44
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Some of the American posters seem to finally be coming to terms with English.

	16-11-2001 21:11									#45
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I don't feel I've improved (much) as far as the grammar aspect goes...but I've learned a lot of words, phrases and expressions, which come in handy in my case studies and presentations...since my study is in English

BTW: Rich, Andy...you two heard my (vocal) English...what did you think of it...?

	16-11-2001 21:29									#46
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fuget it...

	16-11-2001 21:32									#47
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Some of the American posters seem to finally be coming to terms with English.

Wish we could say that about you Limeys.

	16-11-2001 21:42									#48
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quote: Who Has Improved The Most At English Out Of The Foreigners?

So?

	16-11-2001 21:46									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Wish we could say that about you Limeys.

Was a joke. Hence the split infinitive.

	16-11-2001 21:54									#50
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Was a joke. Hence the split infinitive.

I know that, I was kidding also.

Leave your sense of humor in your other cloths, Mike?

	16-11-2001 22:51									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 I know that, I was kidding also. Leave your sense of humor in your other cloths, Mike?

He must have put them out for jumble years ago.

	16-11-2001 23:37									#52
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Hm. Well, I suppose my main language of education has been English for a good seven years now, which might account for it. I believe that what sets the foreigner and the native appart is not so much the basic gramattical structure, which is easy to learn, but the appropriate use of vocabulary and idioms. I'm probably better at writing formal English than slang...

	17-11-2001 05:57									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Zopper BTW: Rich, Andy...you two heard my (vocal) English...what did you think of it...?

I think it was quite OK. For me it seemed your English was better than mine... dunno..

	17-11-2001 13:02									#54
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*Andz wants a compliment*

	17-11-2001 13:03									#55
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Well it damn sure isn't Americans who are improving at English, what with our education system these days

	17-11-2001 13:05									#56
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Well it damn sure isn't Americans who are improving at English, what with our education system these days

Yeah, that's why we call it American English.

	17-11-2001 13:07									#57
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True dat, mofo

	17-11-2001 13:11									#58
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd True dat, mofo

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Isn't this the most ridiculous saying...why the need for off followed by another of? It doesn't make sense, and is extremely poor grammar.



EDIT: oh bollocks this was meant to be a new thread

	17-11-2001 13:16									#60
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And speaking of bad English, lest any of you be hypocritical, why is it people say the word "done" when they really mean "finished"?

Example: It's common to say "I'm done". It's correct to say "I'm finished".