29-11-2001 08:48									#31
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quote: Originally posted by oedo markus, please do us a favor and stop looking for the mp-code! I mean even fireaxis thinks it isnīt good enough for being published but seriously, if I understand this right you have progammed a tool which allows you to take over any civ during a game, didnīt you? I would be interested in having a look into the AIīs black box.

I am not that bored to hack assembly.

Basically change the human player flag in the save file then send it to the next person.. he does his turn, then i change my civ to be human controled and play my turn etc

	29-11-2001 08:59									#32
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good try markus but not quite MP yet !!!

	29-11-2001 15:31									#33
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever so AH is that game done yet...sounds like your take as long to play in SP as you do to launch an invasion in mp....it was you who took almost an hour to take Deities cities IIRC

AH has never taken a city of mine!
That was finbar he attacked....

	30-11-2001 04:40									#34
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I have never tried to take a city of yours Deity.

	30-11-2001 04:46									#35
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will Finnie plz step up to defend himself

	30-11-2001 05:09									#36
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I doubt it - he was very cheesed off about that.

He hasn't played since Hydey started nuking him for nothing in another game.

	30-11-2001 05:14									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I doubt it - he was very cheesed off about that. He hasn't played since Hydey started nuking him for nothing in another game.

too bad i miss finbar around these parts

	30-11-2001 08:49									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I doubt it - he was very cheesed off about that. He hasn't played since Hydey started nuking him for nothing in another game.

i loved that when hydey responded in that way, sure shows you cant trust people with nukes !!!!!

	30-11-2001 09:24									#39
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there is a certain individual who still holds a grudge against me from dropping a nuke on his a$$.......

Nukes are a part of the game.... if you don't want someone to build them....... don't let them build the Manhattan Project

	30-11-2001 09:50									#40
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I think I built the Manhattan Project in that gamne just so they'd start nuking each other

I already had SDI

	30-11-2001 09:55									#41
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i always build it when i can.... i like a good tactical nuke

	30-11-2001 10:06									#42
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i too prefer to build SDI before building Manhattans, then gift Rocketry to all and watch the sparks....

	01-12-2001 01:28									#43
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever there is a certain individual who still holds a grudge against me from dropping a nuke on his a$$.......

I hold absolutely no grudges. In fact, the comedic aspects of your nuclear invasion were well worth it, as far as I'm concerned.

Now, about grudges. There are some people who can't let go of the fact that their damned elephant shouldn't have been there in the first place.

	01-12-2001 01:37									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Bird I hold absolutely no grudges. In fact, the comedic aspects of your nuclear invasion were well worth it, as far as I'm concerned. Now, about grudges. There are some people who can't let go of the fact that their damned elephant shouldn't have been there in the first place.

yes that was quite funny....something i will never live down....i lost more troops than you did......IIRC...


as for elephants......i don't remember this...so perhaps it was another one of our players.....but i will admit their shrieking freaks me out

	01-12-2001 01:52									#45
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever as for elephants......i don't remember this...so perhaps it was another one of our players.....but i will admit their shrieking freaks me out

No, it was you, a couple of weeks ago. I remember you begging me to "please leave my Elly alone," or something to that effect. I suspect it was one of those nights where you were having tech problems, though, because I never did have the wrath of God visited upon me as you promised.

	01-12-2001 02:00									#46
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ah ok.....i think that was the night the girlfriend came home and had been in a car accident....

in the ealy game at times i am willing to let units go by....and work on my diplomacy.....but most people just attack me....i don't know why

elephants are my nemesis...i have had some poor results with people rolling up with 12 of those beasts....

i want to crawl under the computer when that happens.......

if i promised you a reign of terror because of it. i will do my best to fullfill that promise in the near future

	01-12-2001 02:50									#47
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever in the ealy game at times i am willing to let units go by....and work on my diplomacy.....but most people just attack me....i don't know why

Hehe, depending on where they are relative to my core cities, I'll let other civ's units go by also, with a few exceptions. I never let a ferret go by, though. Same with Mongol Hordes. Wonder why?

	01-12-2001 03:01									#48
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HEY, I should feel insulted, but you're probably right. Once you let ferrets in, they're very destructive and expensive to exterminate.

War4, "work on my Diplomacy"

Your best/only diplomatic line is upon first contact. "well should we try to eliminate each other this game or not?" But of course, that's about the most diplomatic that I get too.

RAH
The rest of the game usually rides on how we answer that question.
The Ferrets Best Friend......The sneak attack bonus.

	01-12-2001 03:14									#49
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quote: Originally posted by rah War4, "work on my Diplomacy" Your best/only diplomatic line is upon first contact. "well should we try to eliminate each other this game or not?" But of course, that's about the most diplomatic that I get too. RAH The rest of the game usually rides on how we answer that question. The Ferrets Best Friend......The sneak attack bonus.

er uhm...i think it is YOU who asks how we are going to play it out...

the other day on icq phone was a classic..... trying to remember if it was you or ming...but i was the germans and built right by a city of his/yours and it was attacked..and destroyed...meanwhile one of you was giving me a play by play of what the germans were doing without realizing it was me... and i kept my mouth shut..it was costly too IIRC.....but it added some fun to the game.....it played out like it should have happened....

The mongol horde of beavers (sometimes dubbed the Canadian War Beavers) and the Ferrets.....two of the worst rodent infestations to find in your back yard....especially if working in tandem

If you use up the sneak attack bonus on me...do i get one if i attack you or is it one per civ regardless of who uses it first ...

ie ferrets use against beavers..so beavers don't get one against ferrets but have one still against the mings

in reality its better when the ferrets and beavers both use the bonus on the mings

	01-12-2001 03:31									#50
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Yeah that was me that took out the German city. I remember telling you I was going to take out the city and you didn't say a word till it was gone and you said damn. Pretty funny.

Sneak attack. The person that breaks the peace gets it. You don't get it back unless one of us suckers the other into a formal peace then attacks. I try to get it against every civ in the game before they do it to me. It's usually quite potent. Last game in point. That unit was fortified in the City (Hills) and my non-vet horse killed it without suffering hardly any damage, and was made a vet. Gotta love that bonus. Since peace is an unlikely diplo option in our games, there is only one sneak attack between each pair of civs per game.

The main reason I like using it is because I don't want it used against one of my cities that could take out the strongest defender leaving the city easier to mop up. (granted it doesn't always work, but I love the percentages.)

Which means it's not healthy to find one of my units early if you've just expended all your movement points.

Rich
Actually there is a way around it, but I'll let you figure it out.

	01-12-2001 03:40									#51
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i think i have it figured out the one that makes me curse is when you have a peace treaty ..go republic and forget when trying to declare war....damm senate...... i just want to pick up the #@$@#$#@$ screen and through it at someone........

	01-12-2001 04:06									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I doubt it - he was very cheesed off about that. He hasn't played since Hydey started nuking him for nothing in another game.

Nukes are funny. I nuked Boann in a diplo game.
Hooo doggies.

	01-12-2001 04:36									#53
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u nuked boann....... that is an accomplishment i bet she looks pretty standing there in her nuked out dress

	01-12-2001 06:41									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I have never tried to take a city of yours Deity.

I wonder why?

I provoked you often enough with my spotless rep... and mountain cities... and....

	01-12-2001 07:57									#55
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here we go......

	01-12-2001 09:53									#56
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Any MP enthusiast that rushed out and bought Civ III did themselves a great injustice. You cast a dollar vote, saying that it was ok to put the game out as is, which is SP. Anytime one buys something, they are voting with their money. If it's over priced or incomplete, and you buy it anyway, you're sending the message that it's acceptable. I'm not buying any Civ III SP version. I'm casting my vote.

I'm still with ya Sloww. The boycott lives on! The half dozen or so of us will bring this greedy corporation to its knees!!

	01-12-2001 12:57									#57
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why not a pirate...at least this way you can practice..until they decide what they are going to do with this garbage game...it is worth a little practice...its just a joke really

	01-12-2001 14:45									#58
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well this thread is technically about "First civ 3 game" but as i havent actually palyed any to completion yet i guess i can pretend that i am still on my first...

Playing as french again, this time started in Africa near ethiopia. 7 other civs !!! Huge map of course...

Really struggling to maintain my cultural advantage i di with less civs and the AI is beating me to nearly all Wonders... Still no war at all and its 1200AD............ interesting !!!!!!

	01-12-2001 20:52									#59
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i am in the process of "aquiring" civ3 right now, 45min to dl...

i will however purchase the full version when they patch it

	01-12-2001 21:46									#60
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quote: Originally posted by General Maximus i am in the process of "aquiring" civ3 right now, 45min to dl...

Whew, how fortunate you are, it'd probably take me 6 hours if i wanted it. I'll have to find some way to "try it out first" maybe i could download it at school, they have fast connections there. Hmm, if anyone has a copy that they could help me get send me an icq or PM. Thanks.

And for all you anti-piracy people, I may buy the game when they release MP if I like the game I download.