14-12-2001 16:07									#31
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1. e4 ... e5
2. Nf3 ... Nc6
3. d4 ... exd4
4. Nxd4 ... Nf6
5. Nxc6 ... bxc6
6. e5 ... Qe7
7. Qe2 ... Nd5
8. c4 ... Ba6

Carolus

	14-12-2001 16:13									#32
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"As the Bishop arrived to the end of the known world, and could travel no further, he looked at its wilderness. Admired it. Terra Incognita it may be, he thought, but it will be tamed. Christianed. By me. And if that savage pawn at c4 refuses to convert, it will be Inquisition time!"

Carolus

Last edited by Carolus Rex on 14-12-2001 at 16:20

	14-12-2001 16:14									#33
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This is a diplo game, right?

Carolus

	14-12-2001 17:31									#34
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Hmmm, can’t fnd the game, I think I saw it in a book by Lane that someone had lent me 2 or 3 years ago. As I didn’t pick the variation, my memory don’t help much farther than : e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 d4 exd4 Nxd4 Nf6 Nc3 Bb4 Nxc6 bxc6 Bd3 d5 exd5 cxd5 O-O O-O Bg5 c6 (the standard starting position) and 11 Na4 with the idea c3 or c4, but it is not so great a plan ...

	14-12-2001 17:35									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex This is a diplo game, right?

Hell, I'll sure bet on you then, because I don't even know what a diplogame is

	15-12-2001 23:25									#36
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1 e4 ... e5
2 Nf3 ... Nc6
3 d4 ... exd4
4 Nxd4 ... Nf6
5 Nxc6 ... bxc6
6 e5 ... Qe7
7 Qe2 ... Nd5
8 c4 ... Ba6
9 b3

	17-12-2001 21:14									#37
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1. e4 ... e5
2. Nf3 ... Nc6
3. d4 ... exd4
4. Nxd4 ... Nf6
5. Nxc6 ... bxc6
6. e5 ... Qe7
7. Qe2 ... Nd5
8. c4 ... Ba6
9. b3 ... g6

Carolus

	17-12-2001 21:19									#38
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My next move may take a couple of days.

Tomorrow night, I'm going home to Sweden for Christmas, but since I'm afraid of flying (no, it has nothing to do with September 11th) I'll spend the following 18 hours on a train. So, maybe Thursday...

Carolus

	17-12-2001 21:30									#39
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"'Ah!' The Bishop was pleased that his might had paralysed the white pawn. 'So, at least, they are God fearing people', he chuckled. 'Maybe this is to our advantage and can be exploited somehow? But, what's this?' The Bishop's eye brows were hastily raised. 'Indeed, they have Bishops of their own? Will he come to the edge of the world too, taking a baptising shot at the Black Queen herself? If so, they may not be so easy to convert after all', the Bishop sighed. 'Heretics! They will join the dark side of the board or succumb to our mighty armies!'

Carolus

	18-12-2001 03:02									#40
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1 e4 ... e5
2 Nf3 ... Nc6
3 d4 ... exd4
4 Nxd4 ... Nf6
5 Nxc6 ... bxc6
6 e5 ... Qe7
7 Qe2 ... Nd5
8 c4 ... Ba6
9 b3 ... g6
10 Ba3

	18-12-2001 03:03									#41
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Well, happy traveling ! I like to travel in train !
And be in no hurry to play, this is no game of speed.
By the way, it looks like Ba3 was the move you expected, even if f4 and g3 are the most favored continuations

	18-12-2001 13:26									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida By the way, it looks like Ba3 was the move you expected, even if f4 and g3 are the most favored continuations

Yes, it was what I expected. Why? Because, of the variations you mention this is the one I hate the most! It's called Murphy's law, right?

Where will my poor Queen go?

Carolus

	20-12-2001 15:18									#43
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Psychological warfare at its best

	23-12-2001 18:18									#44
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Carolus, I’m going on holidays for a few days. I shall be back next friday.
Have a merry christmas in Swede.

	05-01-2002 19:17									#45
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1. e4 ... e5
2. Nf3 ... Nc6
3. d4 ... exd4
4. Nxd4 ... Nf6
5. Nxc6 ... bxc6
6. e5 ... Qe7
7. Qe2 ... Nd5
8. c4 ... Ba6
9. b3 ... g6
10. Ba3 ... Qg5

Carolus

	05-01-2002 19:18									#46
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...but now I'm back.

Happy New Year everybody!

Carolus

	06-01-2002 03:05									#47
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1 e4 ... e5
2 Nf3 ... Nc6
3 d4 ... exd4
4 Nxd4 ... Nf6
5 Nxc6 ... bxc6
6 e5 ... Qe7
7 Qe2 ... Nd5
8 c4 ... Ba6
9 b3 ... g6
10 Ba3 ... Qg5
11 h4

	06-01-2002 03:16									#48
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A novelty and maybe an improvement from a Kasparov-Ivanchuk encounter which saw white play 11 g3. 11 h4 looks stronger to me. It’s up to you to prove that I missed something ...
The game was played in 1994, since then, almost everybody plays 9 g5 as black ...
But then it's because white has good play with 10 f4

	07-01-2002 18:51									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida The game was played in 1994, since then, almost everybody plays 9 g5 as black ...

How will 9 ... g5 change things? White can still play 10. Ba3, can't he/she? In which case Black can play 10 ... d6 (which was the move I was thinking about instead of 10 ... Qg5).

I don't think I can prove anything. So far (until 11. h4, at least) it has all been according to book. I'm surprised nobody has played it before, it looks like a natural move. Maybe there is some nasty trap Black can exploit?

Carolus

	08-01-2002 01:00									#50
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Well, I don't know. 10 Ba3 is out of fashion, everybody now plays 10 f4 or maybe 10 g3. 9 g5 is seen as the best for black because it stops f4 usually (but of course not always) a good move for white. But yeah, 11 h4 looks logical enough

	08-01-2002 17:52									#51
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1. e4 ... e5
2. Nf3 ... Nc6
3. d4 ... exd4
4. Nxd4 ... Nf6
5. Nxc6 ... bxc6
6. e5 ... Qe7
7. Qe2 ... Nd5
8. c4 ... Ba6
9. b3 ... g6
10. Ba3 ... Qg5
11. h4 ... Qf4

Carolus

	08-01-2002 18:01									#52
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If the pawn to f4 is such a good move for White, I better put a piece on that square to prevent it (for now)!

I was thinking about stirring things up a little with 11 ... Bb4+. Problem is that I didn't find anything sharp (for me! ) after 12 Bxb4 ... Qc1+ 13. Qd1. Maybe 13 ... Qb2 would have been an option but it looked dangerous and uncertain.

Hence I'm sticking to 11 ... Qf4!

Carolus

	09-01-2002 01:36									#53
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1 e4 ... e5
2 Nf3 ... Nc6
3 d4 ... exd4
4 Nxd4 ... Nf6
5 Nxc6 ... bxc6
6 e5 ... Qe7
7 Qe2 ... Nd5
8 c4 ... Ba6
9 b3 ... g6
10 Ba3 ... Qg5
11 h4 ... Qf4
12 Bb2

	09-01-2002 01:42									#54
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Hmm, your other variation looked too risky for black indeed. I shoulnd't give too many variations, as they may appear again, but 14 cxd5 taking a second piece, threatening Bc3 capturing the queen and attacking the undefended bishop on a6 looked quiite deadly in your 11 Bb4+ variation. But now, other moves, other story, maybe

	09-01-2002 02:35									#55
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No worry about the Queen (I think).

But after

13 ... Qb2
14. cxd5 ... Qxa1
15. Bxa6 ... Qxe5+
16. Qe2 ... Qxe2+
17. Kxe2 ... cxd5

I figure I am worse off (two pawns and a rook versus a knight and two bishops).

We will see what your move brings with it. My answer will probably come tomorrow.

Carolus

	09-01-2002 02:42									#56
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...and

18. Bb7

looks strong, so maybe the balance of pieces would move against me even more.

Carolus

	09-01-2002 15:09									#57
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1. e4 ... e5
2. Nf3 ... Nc6
3. d4 ... exd4
4. Nxd4 ... Nf6
5. Nxc6 ... bxc6
6. e5 ... Qe7
7. Qe2 ... Nd5
8. c4 ... Ba6
9. b3 ... g6
10. Ba3 ... Qg5
11. h4 ... Qf4
12. Bb2 ... Bb4+

Carolus

	09-01-2002 18:10									#58
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1 e4 ... e5
2 Nf3 ... Nc6
3 d4 ... exd4
4 Nxd4 ... Nf6
5 Nxc6 ... bxc6
6 e5 ... Qe7
7 Qe2 ... Nd5
8 c4 ... Ba6
9 b3 ... g6
10 Ba3 ... Qg5
11 h4 ... Qf4
12 Bb2 ... Bb4+
13 Kd1

	09-01-2002 18:19									#59
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Yeah, as I said 11 Bb4+ was bad. Hopefully 12 Bb4+ is better. I won’t be able to castle as 13 Nd2 is definitely not to my liking. This is a really messy position with strenghts and weaknesses everywhere

	09-01-2002 20:01									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida This is a really messy position with strenghts and weaknesses everywhere

I agree. Hopefully they (i.e. the strenghts and weaknesses) are evenly split between the colours...

I definitely feel vulnerable with my Queen out there strolling. Although White's pieces are not well developed and there is no fast way to get the rooks into play, I fear my Queen's vulnerable position will help you develop soon enough...

Carolus