04-12-2001 15:39									#31
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Great Jeff !
I'm really glad it takes that long before the patch is here.
That actually means it'll be a hell of a patch ! I'm sure we're going to love it !

And like yin kinda said, don't bother about the bugs. We love the game, not the bugs ! We'll stalk you anyway to create civ4, thus the community will go on !

CS

	04-12-2001 16:00									#32
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The current version is 1.07f, right?

	04-12-2001 16:04									#33
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um, no, 1.16f

	04-12-2001 16:33									#34
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Yep it is Grim.

/dev

	04-12-2001 16:34									#35
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I think that Grim was referring to the current Civ3 version, which is, indeed, 1.07f.

Anyway, good news. Let's just hope that this patch does not bring NEW bugs...

	04-12-2001 16:40									#36
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yeah, yeah mea culpa

	04-12-2001 18:55									#37
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I just wanted to write this somewhere where it might get noticed by the patch-team;

Could workers 'hide' from boredom as they do from enemy soldiers? so you don't have to keep telling em to sleep when there's nothing to do, only to have to wake em up again to deal with pollution.

ahank- ahyor.

	04-12-2001 19:09									#38
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Cant wait for the patch
I wonder when we will get info for scenario building

	04-12-2001 20:05									#39
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quote: Originally posted by d_dudy 1.16f - does f mean final?

Not necessary. It depends from internal numbering rules for versions Firaxis developer team use.

Under some rules 1.16f means the same of 1.16.6 - where f=sixth (letter)

On a side note, my thanks to Jeffrey Morris for the promise of a "readme.txt" available in advance

	04-12-2001 20:34									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Adm.Naismith On a side note, my thanks to Jeffrey Morris for the promise of a "readme.txt" available in advance

That's what I wanted before possibly downloading the patch...reading what's in it, if it will effectively fix the important bugs without unbalancing the already well balanced game's core .

Btw, I like your Infogreed avatar LaRusso....

	04-12-2001 21:02									#41
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 NO!!! By taking out the bugs, you are destroying the Civ community. You said so yourself!!!

Get over yourself. I have two friends who have been playing this game and never heard of apolyton.net.

When I told them of the upcoming patch, one said, "a patch? for what? this game is great!"

Imagine that. The game is already playable and enjoyable.

	04-12-2001 21:10									#42
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You're right Ray K, the game is enjoyable and playable.

I just want to be able to determine the specific starting points for all the civs.

I really hope that has made into this patch and I don't have to buy an expansion pack in 12 months time.

	04-12-2001 21:22									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Ray K Get over yourself. I have two friends who have been playing this game and never heard of apolyton.net. When I told them of the upcoming patch, one said, "a patch? for what? this game is great!" Imagine that. The game is already playable and enjoyable.

...Except for the fighters. But in a way, that adds challenge to the game--not so much in the form of trying to win without fighters, as trying to win before they become relevent. That's worked for me every time so far, but now I'm playing on Emperor, and it doesn't work so well. Instead, I'm relying upon massive amounts of radar artillery, so the AI's fighters aren't put into use either...but I'll be happy to have fighters.

	04-12-2001 21:28									#44
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quote: Btw, I like your Infogreed avatar LaRusso....

Is there something wrong with the inoffensive ethic of greed?

I'm glad he changed it, though. We had the same one.

	05-12-2001 00:46									#45
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Even though I haven't had that large problems with the game I'm looking forward to the patch. Thanx, Jeff. Carry on the good work!.

Nem

	05-12-2001 01:34									#46
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Jeff, has the nVidia refresh bug been addressed yet?

Thanks in advance.

	05-12-2001 02:39									#47
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quote: So, the readme.txt hopefully out on Wednesday... Wednesday in which country?

The United States, English only...

Translators will be sued...

	05-12-2001 03:09									#48
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That's just fine by me

	05-12-2001 03:26									#49
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Well it is Wednesday now the cricket was a draw and I still don't see any readme.txt lousy US timezones can't keep up with the rest of the world

	05-12-2001 04:36									#50
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Yeah, I guess we're more like the second mouse than the early bird.

The early bird catches the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese.

	05-12-2001 06:28									#51
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quote: Get over yourself.

LOL! Just like I said, you and your friends don't need a patch! FIRAXIS: DO NOT WASTE TIME AND MONEY PATCHING CIV3!

	05-12-2001 06:43									#52
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Better put a smiley somewhere near that yin, or else some people might think that "don't fix what's broke" is your opinion.

Any news on scenario making fixes?

	05-12-2001 06:48									#53
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(Shadowstrike: Shhhh, I'm up to no good. Don't spoil it! )

Honestly, I would think that the QA director at a developer as famous as Firaxis must certainly know what he is talking about when he said the Civ community needs bugs in order to survive. That's why I think you guys barking for a patch should just sit down, be quiet, and enjoy the purposely buggy Civ3.

	05-12-2001 07:24									#54
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 the Civ community needs bugs in order to survive.

yum yum, bugs are tasty, bugs are crunchy....

bug stir fry

500 grams assorted bugs, diced
1 pack hokkien noodles
6 tablespoons oriental sauces to taste
assorted stir fry vegetables
1 tablespoon sesame oil

Heat oil in wok, and saute bugs. Add vegetables and sauce. Add noodles last. Serves 3-4.

	05-12-2001 07:24									#55
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Hey Yin do you have absolutely no desire to see if the patch will help things?

I'm askin' honestly and curiously, 'cause I agree with many of your points, though I think once the editor is really up and pumpin' the game will get much better.

Do you not agree???

	05-12-2001 07:32									#56
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I personally agree with you. Totally. I'm just taking Jeff's side in all this and trusting his theory that once the bugs are fixed, this website will be abandoned because we'll have nothing to talk about.

Right, Jeff?

	05-12-2001 08:02									#57
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Well, if the patch lets you do even more modding or even scenarios, I don't see why the civ community won't continue to flourish

	05-12-2001 08:02									#58
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Yin's just mad 'cause Firaxis didn't use his LIST as a template for Civ3.

	05-12-2001 08:14									#59
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quote: Originally posted by HalfLotus Yin's just mad 'cause Firaxis didn't use his LIST as a template for Civ3.

Ah.. I see why.. But I believe his stuff on Koreans are pretty convincing. I didn't know Koreans were so interesting

Well, one of these days, we could always modify the game beyond specs following what we one. Honestly, at one time I thought there wasn't going to be a Civ III, and I thought it would be a really great idea to make a Civ clone with true separate races (rather than just civ with different coloured units and leaders).. but Firaxis did and put in cultures as the races.. oh well, I guess I'll truly have to master programming first before I could do something even like Civ III

	05-12-2001 08:53									#60
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quote: Yin's just mad 'cause Firaxis didn't use his LIST as a template for Civ3.

LOL! Whatever. If you don't 'get it' yet, you never will.

mfauzi: Hey, thanks. It's nice you took the time to read it all.