12-12-2001 07:17									#61
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quote: [SIZE=1] 1,070 years of republican government. ONE THOUSAND AND SEVENTY CONTINUOUS YEARS. Based on a city state, indeed, but as any Northern Italian, or Greek, or Croatian or Cypriot could tell you, or indeed anyone with a better grasp of history than yourself, also including, at times, parts of northern Italy, Crete, Cyprus, The Morea, The Dalmatian Islands- well, I could go on, but why should I bother educating you at my expense. I can't see any point in continuing an argument with someone whose grasp of facts is limited to second-hand information from the C.I.A. and their own biased opinions.

And of course, it would seem like the only way of rebutting what I said is to talk about something else totally unrelated and call it proof.

I said the American Republic was the first of the large democracies, both in its geographic reach and its population. Read my Lips. NOT CITY STATES. It's been long established the Athenian model of Democracy works, but not the Federal Republican system created by the United States designed to deal with a large unified continental Republic. -- The system was met initially with. Everyone expected the experiment to fail. That was the general sentiment of the time. And no, I don't care for another link for another leftist intellectual lunatic who is going to tell me the earth is flat because those cruel Americans made it so.

But of course, we have to hear about the Venetian Republic and Iceland, which skirts the point entirely. With alll your ranting, raving and pointless mind numbing left-wing links that spew nothing but opinions, you have yet to answer directly the point.

What you're doing Molly is to tell me the color of your shirt when I ask for the time of day. And it's truly sad when you can't answer a point directly, but instead drag it indefinately with examples and cases that doesn't even qualify as a point of rebuttal.

But of course, you'll just ignore that and tell me City States and a large Island populated by a handful of settlers matter just as much and should be considered the large scale democratic republics we were supposed to be discussing. Or perhaps you'll claim that I somehow didn't quantify the parameters of the discussion clearly enough for you.

I'm out of here. You can talk talk to yourself and maybe the void will agree with you and you'll be happy in your Australian outback.

	12-12-2001 07:41									#62
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Poor dexters. Can't get a simple fact, a SIMPLE fact, correct. Is this because it wasn't shown on the C.I.A.'s website?

'And no, I don't care for another link for another leftist intellectual lunatic who is going to tell me the earth is flat because those cruel Americans made it so. '

Which links did you have in mind, or do you routinely substitute invective and immature name-calling for argument? As for being happy in the outback- a shaky grasp of geography to go with your shaky grasp of history?

	12-12-2001 12:59									#63
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Poor dexters. Can't get a simple fact, a SIMPLE fact, correct. Is this because it wasn't shown on the C.I.A.'s website? 'And no, I don't care for another link for another leftist intellectual lunatic who is going to tell me the earth is flat because those cruel Americans made it so. ' Which links did you have in mind, or do you routinely substitute invective and immature name-calling for argument? As for being happy in the outback- a shaky grasp of geography to go with your shaky grasp of history?

Stupidity knows no bounds...

-And I'm referring to BOTH your comments.-

	12-12-2001 19:59									#65
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom 1)...Poor dexters ... I can't see any point in continuing an argument with someone whose grasp of facts is limited to ... 2)...Poor dexters. Can't get a simple fact, a SIMPLE fact, correct...

Your own grasp of the thread of the discussion is completely muddled. Your responses don't even answer the issues brought up. When dexters answers your post, and clearly has the better of the (asinine) argument, you just shift the discussion to some other irrelevant aside. You apparently always have to have the last word. As for being condescending, stuff it.

	12-12-2001 20:01									#66
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Second.
(edited: reffering to Big Crunch's post)

	13-12-2001 05:07									#67
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quote: Originally posted by d_dudy i can't believe viceroy ming closed that other thread (which i thought was pretty legitimate, because i've never seen that question addressed and i'm here a good deal) but didn't move this to the OT. case closed, hardly

Come on... You think I live on line... You think I have time to read EVERY word posted within minutes of it be posted... I have a real life too

And yes... this does belong in the OTF. And that's just where it is going.