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whosurdaddy
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Jun 2001
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
You unwittingly answered your own query!
US high school propoganda (a.k.a. "history") classes teach that the English happily and peacefully settled vast amounts of mysteriously empty land. The Spaniards crushed the poor, peaceful Carib, conquered the Aztecs and Incas, then sent countless shiploads of silver and gold back to Spain. The cruelty! The theft! |
Es inútil discutir eso ya que es imposible probar la información que estamos diciendo, sin embargo, es diversión muy buena  .... lo que ustedes están diciendo acerca de la propaganda en las escuelas americanas definitivamente no es la verdad. Los colegios americanos enseñan mucha información acerca del tratamiento de los indios por los colonizadores ingleses, y luego los americanos, por ejemplo el uso de armas biológicas por los colonizadores ingleses (la viruela), el “trail of tears” (el camino de lagrimas) de presidente Andrew Jackson, etcétera. Todas estas cosas son enseñadas en colegios americanos, y algunas estudiantes americanos que he conocido aún pensaba que los estados unidos era la única nación hacer cosas así! Quiero que ustedes contesten una pregunta, Jay Bee y Marquis, ¿asistieron ustedes a los colegios americanos? Si la respuesta es que no asistieron ustedes a los colegios americanos, entonces todo que está pasando aquí es lo que yo llamaría “america bashing.”
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Marquis de Sodaq
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... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000
time: 23:16
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Originally posted by whosurdaddy
Es inútil discutir eso ya que es imposible probar la información que estamos diciendo, sin embargo, es diversión muy buena .... |
JB had asked what US schools teach, iirc. This is what is (used to be?) taught thru the high school level.
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Originally posted by whosurdaddy
Los colegios americanos enseñan mucha información acerca ... Todas estas cosas son enseñadas en colegios americanos, ... |
Maybe all has changed. When I was in high school, all of this was glossed over, swept under the rug. University classes taught what really happened, but not mandatory school levels. In 1995, a highly influential book, Lies My Teacher Told Me, by D. Loewen, shook up how history was taught. Maybe the effect was truly to change propoganda-laden civics classes to actual history. I was long out of university by then, so I wouldn't know if/when such a change occured. 
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Originally posted by whosurdaddy
... entonces todo que está pasando aquí es lo que yo llamaría “america bashing.” |
As said, I attended high school in the US. And yes, I was america bashing! However, I do so in a positive spirit. As long as such problems are ignored, nothing is done to correct them. Acknowledging faults is half the task of eliminating them.
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Originally posted by Jay Bee
Marquis does not speak Spanish.
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Si, pero puedo leer un poco... 
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whosurdaddy
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New York
Jun 2001
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
Maybe all has changed. When I was in high school, all of this was glossed over, swept under the rug .... As said, I attended high school in the US. And yes, I was america bashing! However, I do so in a positive spirit. As long as such problems are ignored, nothing is done to correct them. Acknowledging faults is half the task of eliminating them.
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Another thing to take into account is perhaps location. I do not know where you grew up (land o lakes, perhaps u’re from Michigan by the great lakes?), but in the northeast where I attended high school and attend college, content is a lot more liberal than say, in the south or Midwest. After all, it was only a few years ago in Kansas that they were still arguing over the topic of evolution .. 
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Plan Austral
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Poster Formerly known as Kublai-Khan. Buenos Aires - Argentina.
Oct 2001
time: 05:16
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No tiene nada q ver con British empire vs Spanish empire
pero me resulta cuasi comico.
Esto es algo q escribi hace un mes y medio calculo, y que hoy descubri que tuvo varias respuestas.
Era sobre que guerra mundial fue mas entretenida de alguna forma.
-si se puede decir que una guerra es entretenida-
yo-
I would say that it is far more interesting.(hablando de la primera)
I am quite sick of ww2,
in the history channel
all they have are documentals about ww2 or american history.
It should be callee american history channel,
i think that they have more documentals about the hoover dam
than documental about ancient egypt.
The History channel sucks only in Argentina or it sucks worlwide?
Me respondieron-
As far as the history channel: Yes it does focus more on American history. What a shock, their main market is Americans. They aren't running a service, they are trying to sell GI Joe's with a Kung Fu grip. That and CIV3 (I actually saw a commercial for it). I have heard that there is a history channel international. Maybe that would be more to your taste. Perhaps you should start a history channel South America if there is a market for it.
I'm not trying to be an @SS, but I guess I don't know what you expect from a for-profit company other than to do its best to drive up advertising revenues.
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Well, two things:
(1) The History Channel deals mostly with American history because, uh, it is an American cable network. If you are interested in starting an Argentine History Channel, perhaps you can get together a group of investors to do so, but good luck.
(2) The History Channel deals more with WWII subjects than WWI subjects simply because there is far more footage (newsreels, still pictures, etc.) and primary sources (e.g., interviewees) available to talk about it. This point is so obvious it is almost embarassing to state.
Sorry to stray off topic here. Carry on.
No se x q se ofendieron tanto, no fue para nada america bashing lo q yo dije.
Son como muy suceptibles no?
Ustedes mirarían al argentine history channel?Quien sabe es una buena idea no?
   
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