30-01-2002 16:02									#31
	Re: Re: The United Nations Increase the size of your Attachments

quote: Originally posted by Keygen Anti-American?

I think he meant non-American - Far-right wing Americans automatically assume that any organisation that isn't dominated by the US is out to enslave everybody in the United States

	30-01-2002 17:05									#32
	Re: The United Nations Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by rmsharpe What is up with these UNHCR advertisements on Apolyton? The United Nations is a corrupt organization bent on pressing leftist and anti-American ideologies on innocent people.

QUICK!! GET YOUR GUN! Reports about UN troops in the hills of Minneapolis are flooding in!! They're taking over!! Shred all your paperwork as well!!

	30-01-2002 20:15									#33
	Re: Re: Re: The United Nations Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Case I think he meant non-American - Far-right wing Americans automatically assume that any organisation that isn't dominated by the US is out to enslave everybody in the United States

	30-01-2002 20:19									#34
	Re: The United Nations Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by rmsharpe I've got a gripe about Apolyton. What is up with these UNHCR advertisements on Apolyton? The United Nations is a corrupt organization bent on pressing leftist and anti-American ideologies on innocent people. Why, then, are you supporting them?

What do you smoke (or drink or eat) at Minneapolis ?

	30-01-2002 21:28									#35
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

BTW, considering that webmasters are a Greek and a Canadian, would they really need to care a flying fiddlestick if they were promoting organization with anti-American values?

...

OK, they would need to care a bit, but point still stands.

Anyway. "UN is evil" line of thought is bit hard to understand. For one, UN is too ineffectual to press on their undoubtedly evil goals. And, while ineffectual, UN does do lot of good - it has all these treaties, for instance, that America can refuse to sign, thus causing the anti-American trolls to stay firmly in their compters typing furiously instead of being on streets and behaving on scurrilous manner.

But really, UN is basically good though bit ineffectual organization. It's like getting mad at crutch-using fluffy bunnies.

Of course, funny thing is, should there be a WTO ad, no doubt we'd be soon hearing "WTO is an evil organization pressing anti-democratic and neo-liberal values on innocent people" all around.

	30-01-2002 21:52									#36
	Re: The United Nations Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by rmsharpe I've got a gripe about Apolyton. What is up with these UNHCR advertisements on Apolyton? The United Nations is a corrupt organization bent on pressing leftist and anti-American ideologies on innocent people. Why, then, are you supporting them?

What specific things do you hate about the UN? Peacekeeping? Feeding and sheltering refugees? The fact that it provides a place to settle international disputes?

I don't really expect a response. Me thinks we have a troll who should be ignored in the future.

	30-01-2002 21:57									#37
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: The United Nations is a ... organization bent on pressing leftist and anti-American ideologies on innocent people.

I hope so, or I'm ending my subscription.

	30-01-2002 23:49									#38
	Re: Re: The United Nations Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Tingkai What specific things do you hate about the UN? Peacekeeping? Feeding and sheltering refugees? The fact that it provides a place to settle international disputes? I don't really expect a response. Me thinks we have a troll who should be ignored in the future.

I have to say that from what little I have seen of rmsharpe both here and at Civ fanatics - he is a total and complete idiot.

	31-01-2002 02:37									#39
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Oh, you're all laughing now, but when the Blue Helmets come to your house, rape your family and steal your cattle, you'll understand...trust me, I know all to well...

	31-01-2002 02:39									#40
	Increase the size of your Attachments

quote: Originally posted by Stefu Of course, funny thing is, should there be a WTO ad, no doubt we'd be soon hearing "WTO is an evil organization pressing anti-democratic and neo-liberal values on innocent people" all around.

And we'd be right, too.

	31-01-2002 04:19									#41
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

The United Nations has pretty much replaced the Vatican as the object of much loony conspiracy theory.

	31-01-2002 04:52									#42
	Re: Re: Re: The United Nations Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Case Far-right wing Americans automatically assume that any organisation that isn't dominated by the US is out to enslave everybody in the United States

The UN is dominated by the US. (This is the most valid reason to dislike the UN, btw.)

	31-01-2002 05:43									#43
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

The United States is the largest contributor to UN and that's why it gets frustrated with it. Because of the voting system, the U.S. feels it doesn't have the influence it should. The exception is the Security Council where the vetoe keeps the big powers happy.

There have been proposals to change the voting to a system where votes are weighted according to the size of a country's contribution but these proposals have never got off the ground.

The United Nations was created by the United States but it is probably better if it is a genuine global forum rather than a U.S. puppet body.

In many ways, the problems the U.S. has with the U.N. mirror the problems the U.S. has with dealing with the global community. The world out there is complex and resists U.S. attempts to simplify everything to we're always right.