06-02-2002 03:57									#31
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So provost was making it up?

Wiglaf, are you absolutely sure it was an apolytoner?
If not, then you can't go on a McCarthyist rant yelling at people.

	06-02-2002 03:57									#32
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Hey Wiggy.

Are you enjoying all the attention your little joke has created? BTW you still have not told me what it is you were accusing me of in your "mods" thread or provided any evidence to support it.

Feel free to correct the omission now.

	06-02-2002 04:11									#33
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quote: Wiglaf, are you absolutely sure it was an apolytoner?

Pretty sure, nothing's definite.

quote: Are you enjoying all the attention your little joke has created? BTW you still have not told me what it is you were accusing me of in your "mods" thread or provided any evidence to support it.

I'm not accusing you of anything.

	06-02-2002 04:24									#34
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quote: Where were you on February 2?

Trying to hack into someones account - mine actually. I couldn't remember the damned password.

Where were you?

	06-02-2002 04:29									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Quite wrong, ming. In the same way that international terrorist groups loudly confess to their crimes against humanity, an apolyton hacker would love people to know he's the one who did it, regardless of how stupid it would appear to you.

Then why hasn't the hacker come forward yet, and why would he (or she, after all, we do have about ten female posters here) come forward now? Also, how will you know whether somebody is telling the truth or not when they do confess?

That being said, on the night of February 2nd I was laughing my ass off.

	06-02-2002 04:30									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Has anyone who is "believeable" ever had their Poly account(s) hacked?

MarkG has "hacked" my account a couple of times to give me rude titles and so forth. So when I saw Wiglaf's avatar I immediately assumed Mark had done it. Hasn't he said so yet?

	06-02-2002 04:54									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse MarkG has "hacked" my account a couple of times to give me rude titles and so forth. So when I saw Wiglaf's avatar I immediately assumed Mark had done it. Hasn't he said so yet?

If Mark had done it... everybody would know it... because he would have told us, and taken credit for it
Sure, we "edit" members "titles", "locations", avatars, whatever...
It is usually done when somebody has "stepped over the line" as determinded by the owners on THEIR site. It is their right to make any change they feel is appropriate. But, they will also alert the member to the reason why.... and warn them not to change it back.

Or in your case... a special title was called for And as you remember... you knew who did it

	06-02-2002 04:56									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Your uni IP's come through several different DHCP servers. Probably you have a static <i>internal</i> (to the uni network) IP, then go through a router, then back to a server cluster which passes your internet traffic to whichever externally connected server has the least load at the moment.

Thanks, I thought it probably did. I was just interested, since I do know that any Cambridge computer that views any Cambridge site can be identified, and not just on the same domain. For example, if I check a site on the srcf domain (say, www.srcf.ucam.org/~abc12), then the logfile for the srcf will record that crh37.emma.cam.ac.uk accessed the site.

quote: When did I claim I was intent on blaming the Brits?

Ahem. I quote, from the "flagship" thread, 3rd page, your last post on the page...

quote: Basically any liberal or British/Canadian poster is subject to intense inspection now.

	06-02-2002 05:19									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Ming as you remember... you knew who did it

Actually as I recall it, Mark did it without warning and he didn't own up straight away - I had to start a thread here to find out - just like Wiglaf has done.

That avatar looked like a very MarkG kind of choice - its funny but not rude at all. Maybe he's not telling people now when he does it.

EVC sent me a PM implying he did it. But I find that very hard to believe. Evan just doesn't have the skill and he wouldn't have chosen something so muted.

If Faded Glory's avatar wasn't imposed on him, expect a thread here soon complaining about it.

	06-02-2002 05:29									#40
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quote: Where were you?

Arriving at Apolyton to find my avatar stuff modified.

quote: If Mark had done it... everybody would know it... because he would have told us, and taken credit for it Sure, we "edit" members "titles", "locations", avatars, whatever... It is usually done when somebody has "stepped over the line" as determinded by the owners on THEIR site. It is their right to make any change they feel is appropriate. But, they will also alert the member to the reason why.... and warn them not to change it back.

What if Mark just hasn't decided to come forward yet?

quote: Ahem. I quote, from the "flagship" thread, 3rd page, your last post on the page...

That represented a dramatic increase in the scope of the investigation, not that I was targeting a particular group of people alone and forgetting the rest. As you can see from the initial suspect list on that page, there are plenty of Americans under inspection as well, including HTower, who kicked off that paragraph you quoted.

	06-02-2002 05:37									#41
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quote: That represented a dramatic increase in the scope of the investigation

What next? Anal probes???

	06-02-2002 05:51									#42
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Btw Mark, if you did it, I thought it was damn funny

Now, can I have my Apolyton Troll title back please?

	06-02-2002 06:00									#43
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quote: What next? Anal probes???

That's not what I meant by 'scope' (methods are hardly the same as target group and main focus). In any event it's a very important point to make that I'm in no way going with the flow any anti commie or Brit/Canadian agenda would generate. This is a rather fair investigation, a much more fair one than the perp probably deserves.

Speaking of which, loinburger, where were you February 2? The only information you provided wasn't overly helpful. Were you online or not?

	06-02-2002 06:07									#44
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Oh come on Wiglaf. Its so obvious. The are only 2 credible possibilities:

a. You did it yourself. Possible - but that would make you crazier than even we thought.

b. Someone with access to your account did it.

Who has the best access to your account aside from yourself?

The "hacking" option just isn't credible.

	06-02-2002 06:21									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Speaking of which, loinburger, where were you February 2? The only information you provided wasn't overly helpful. Were you online or not?

Obviously I was online, I was at your thread mocking your ineptitude (and your handsome new avatar).

	06-02-2002 06:39									#46
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Hey loinburger, speaking of handsome new avatars .....

	06-02-2002 06:44									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse If Faded Glory's avatar wasn't imposed on him, expect a thread here soon complaining about it.

bah.....I put it up there. If you dont like it, you can turn off your avatars.

	06-02-2002 06:50									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Hey loinburger, speaking of handsome new avatars .....

Who's the handsome devil in yours, BTW?

	06-02-2002 06:52									#49
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Who's the handsome devil in yours, BTW?

You honestly don't know?

	06-02-2002 06:54									#50
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Who's the handsome devil in yours, BTW?

You have to wonder sometimes how people found this site

	06-02-2002 06:57									#51
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I assume that it's Sid Meier, but seeing as how I've never seen a picture of dear old Sid, I wasn't sure...

	06-02-2002 06:57									#52
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Just keeping the dream alive Ming.

	06-02-2002 06:58									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Ming You have to wonder sometimes how people found this site

speaking of handsome avatars...

	06-02-2002 07:08									#54
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Ming, please restrict them all for the next day or two while I sort out my investigation. This spam is slowing me down and distracting us all. I'm honestly THIS CLOSE to cracking the sucker wide open.

	06-02-2002 07:10									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Ming You have to wonder sometimes how people found this site

Maybe AH should make a thread about it

	06-02-2002 07:11									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Ming, please restrict them all for the next day or two while I sort out my investigation. This spam is slowing me down and distracting us all. I'm honestly THIS CLOSE to cracking the sucker wide open.

Those probes are really working out well, aren't they?

	06-02-2002 07:14									#57
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Maybe AH should make a thread about it

As with just about everything, there has already been a thread about it. Before your time. There are a few people who somehow found their way to the OT, like rats find sewers, that have no interest in civ games.

	06-02-2002 07:15									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Ming, please restrict them all for the next day or two while I sort out my investigation. This spam is slowing me down and distracting us all. I'm honestly THIS CLOSE to cracking the sucker wide open.

Maybe your probes would go better if you stopped asking what I was wearing on AIM.

	06-02-2002 07:18									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ming You have to wonder sometimes how people found this site

Oh, come on. I started out posting on the Civ III thread, then eventually moved to OT. Hell, I managed the Combat and Units threads on the "List Of Ideas To Be Ignored By Firaxis."

	06-02-2002 07:25									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf I'm honestly THIS CLOSE to cracking the sucker wide open.

If by that you mean your request to me to forward a PM I got - forget it. Go and ask him yourself.

Oh yeah - you are him. Ask yourself then