08-02-2002 05:52									#31
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Hey provost, Ming did the big net nanny again and closed my spink/yo yo thread. Did he close yours?

	08-02-2002 05:53									#32
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PH: You don't seriously believe the moderators are real people, do you?

	08-02-2002 05:53									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison We should make a modbot that spews out random posts from time to time like 'one more comment like that and you are toast' and 'if there is any more spam in this thread, it will be closed' and 'eight weeks out of you for another insult like that'. We wouldn't even need real mods because people would think there is a real mod around

What happened to that downloadable Ming AI thingummy that was floating around a while ago? I think Evan put it together along with one that ranted and raved (No prizes for guessing who the second one was for )

	08-02-2002 05:54									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Hey provost, Ming did the big net nanny again and closed my spink/yo yo thread. Did he close yours?

My poll on whether you would heed his warning was deleted.

	08-02-2002 05:56									#35
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Good one son.

MING: Making war on harmless fun since 1999.

	08-02-2002 06:02									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse MING: Making war on harmless fun since 1999.

Yeah... making war on spam and trolls since 1999... and damn proud of it

	08-02-2002 06:08									#37
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I don't know why you do it.

	08-02-2002 06:14									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I don't know why you do it.

I just want to do what I can to help the owners of this site. This is their hobby, and they need all the help they can get so that we can have a place like this to post....

So just helping... Unlike some other people

	08-02-2002 06:18									#39
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What a saint you are

The reality is you, MTG and ML show up occasionally on the OT and just close a few threads and ban a couple of people so Mark thinks you're on the job.

I've noticed Ming appearances tend to coincide with what must be the end of your MP sessions Chicago time

	08-02-2002 06:37									#40
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quote: We should make a modbot that spews out random posts from time to time like 'one more comment like that and you are toast' and 'if there is any more spam in this thread, it will be closed' and 'eight weeks out of you for another insult like that'. We wouldn't even need real mods because people would think there is a real mod around

You mean like the posterbots who say from time to time: "I´m leaving!!!" or "Oh, I´m back"

Woud be cool, the site would run without a single human, only posterbots and modbots...

	08-02-2002 07:07									#41
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro You mean like the posterbots who say from time to time: "I´m leaving!!!" or "Oh, I´m back" Woud be cool, the site would run without a single human, only posterbots and modbots...

Yeah, why not model it after AH, it could randomly post something from a list ot Troll Topics, then it goes into Bait/Insult Mode until the thread is closed.

	08-02-2002 08:23									#42
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What the mods need is a sort of excel spreadsheet that informs them about threads with the catchwords for trolls such as "___ ***ORZ", etc.

that would reduce job-worries and hassles.
If the mods are meaner, it is because they have more troubles to conted with.

	08-02-2002 09:11									#43
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I think a lot of the posters are getting meaner. A lot of them troll and flame a lot due to the silliest of excuses.

Maybe they should get some more alcohol in their systems.

	08-02-2002 10:08									#44
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the Mods are more active recently

but that is after a few monrths of below average activity so it was needed

(the SPAM and insults that went on, oh my!!)

this is just a return to usual business

Jon Miller

	08-02-2002 10:26									#45
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quote: maybe we could make Imran a mod.... he's not much of a troublemaker, and he's not likely to turn evil.

Hmmm, then I could justify all the time I spend here

I'm not likely to turn evil? That's what I wanted you to think

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Mods are doing a good job. I don't see anything wrong with them.

	08-02-2002 12:25									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I've noticed Ming appearances tend to coincide with what must be the end of your MP sessions Chicago time

Does Ming kick buttocks on MP?

CYBERAmazon

	08-02-2002 13:47									#47
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Woud be cool, the site would run without a single human, only posterbots and modbots...

Just as long as the Bebro posterbot continues work on the much awaited Cross & Crescent update!

	08-02-2002 14:30									#48
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quote: Originally posted by CYBERAmazon Does Ming kick buttocks on MP? CYBERAmazon

No

	08-02-2002 17:42									#49
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Just as long as the Bebro posterbot continues work on the much awaited Cross & Crescent update!

*BeBro bot returns to work mode*

	08-02-2002 18:43									#50
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The nods do agood job................

	08-02-2002 19:49									#51
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What bug crawled up FG's ass?

	08-02-2002 19:53									#52
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They aren't acting meaner. It's just competitiveness.

When MtG got made mod (you remember the April fool gone wrong?) MarkG started a quota system for bannings, thread closures and deletions. The theory is that the Civ III release has brought in a lot of traffic so bandwidth space needs to be made by rotating regular posters out of the OT using periodic bannings.

I have it on good authority that MtG's quick draw banning and closing style of moderatorship was a lot more successful, early on, than Ming's humorous style and he soon fell way behind on the quotas. Ming got a stiff talking to from DanQ and MarkG about pulling his weight in the bannings department and Mark assigned MtG to give him special banning, thread closure and deletion lessons.

Behind the scenes Ming is actually fighting for OT poster rights but it's a losing battle.

This is all 100% true, it's in the top secret Staff forum. They have performance graphs, banning and deletion tables. Everything. I have this on good authority from one of the staff but they insisted that they remain annonymous for obvious reasons.

	08-02-2002 20:34									#53
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I don't consider them meaner, but a lot more sensible. Over sensible, IMO. I really can't forget or understand that time where MarkG closed my thread about what was IMO Firaxis' late open beta testers requisition short after Jeff announcement. He closed it because he wanted everything in the same thread relationed with the beta testers request.
I was really angry with it, because the way I saw how he was seeing my thread was just spam, when I think the subject was different.

This is my example. I've seen others where threads in the OT are closed because mods feel somehow the rules are being broken, when some users just think there's nothing wrong with it. Wich means that we're talking about personal judgement calls.

But one thing I'm pretty sure of: some users need to start facing Apolyton as just a hobby, not something where you could prove that you're a better person than others or anything.

	08-02-2002 20:59									#54
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I've studied the data for nearly 7 years now and the only conclusion can be that they are bastards of the second highest order. MarkG is bucking for highest order, but he's got a little work to do.

	08-02-2002 22:31									#55
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mods aren't meaner, there's just more spam, flames, and general bullshit (frequent the civ3 general forum for examples)

	08-02-2002 22:34									#56
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They should be meaner, bunch of F*cking girly-men.

	08-02-2002 22:41									#57
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger What bug crawled up FG's ass?

err nothing really...just tellin the truth. He wanted to know why the mods were mean lately. I told em', Straight up. AH is your problem right there. He is all troll and Spam.

	08-02-2002 22:44									#58
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Perhaps the moderators are inspired by the fine example of Chris (The Iron Fisted and no damn velvet glove about it) Poulos over at Civfanatics.

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	08-02-2002 22:45									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 They should be meaner, bunch of F*cking girly-men.

Insulting mods would be punishable by three weeks if they get any meaner... Except MtG, who'd just 'take you outside' to FFZ, and flame your ass off over there.

	08-02-2002 22:58									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Venom I've studied the data for nearly 7 years now and the only conclusion can be that they are bastards of the second highest order. MarkG is bucking for highest order, but he's got a little work to do.

trying to get that first class ticket to mingapulco?