 |
|
Bereta_Eder
|
|
the idea is to cooperate in good faith for the common good of europe. not for the petty short term interests of the states.
it is very revolutionary if you think about it. the old ways and methods of international relations are gradually fading inside the EU.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Rage
|
|
QUOTE]the idea is to cooperate in good faith for the common good of europe. not for the petty short term interests of the states. [/QUOTE]
But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Bereta_Eder
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Yes, so utterly unlike what the American states did... |
it is unlikey the US. the american states had not the burden of millenia of history, they were absolutely new.
they were almost the same, they used the same language
it was like england being devided and then reuniting itself. not so challenging.
OTOH uniting about 45 countries with very different histories, cultures etc is quite a challeng and it is revolutionary.
if the world would ever hope to unite, it would follow the EU model (assuming EU succeeds) because there is no other like it, with such potential for uniting completely different peoples and countries with milenia of different histories and cultures and languages into one pliticosocioeconomic unit.
|
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
Bereta_Eder
|
|
quote:
But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive. |
the same happenes between «fans» of football teams from the same CITY!
|
|
| |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
Bereta_Eder
|
|
the Eu and especially the european commission are very often being used as scapegoats by the national governments too. It happens in almost all the EU states and to a lesser extend in scandinavia since they have very long lasting transparency laws.
there can be an agenda to be followed by the greek government for example which is very unpopular to the public. they can lobby hard for it in the commission and the council of ministers (being utterly secure behind closed doors) and then present it to the public as a decision of the «evil commission» or whatever. whereas it was them who lobbied for it.
it happens all the time.
(not that the EU institutions are flawless or a paramount of democratic accountability...)
|
|
| |
|
| |
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:17.
Apolyton Time is 00:17. |
top of page
|
| archivepost |
|
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
|
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
|
|
|
|
|
|
18-02-2002 04:02
coming to think about it he was always speaking about thatcher and seemed to have an unhealthy fascination for her. could he had been a 
torry *shudder*
) it would be easier if it were a democracy. I'm positive that if it was we would have very friendly relationships and be filthy rich (oil in the aegean - cooperation etc)
|