18-02-2002 07:49									#31
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Find something else to whine about, Wiglaf.

If you knew anything about the sport you'd realize that in short track speed skating this kind of stuff is all too common.

It happens sometimes, and it did here.

That's why the American wasn't too upset, it's part of the game.

Get Over It, little man.

	18-02-2002 07:50									#32
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That's the nature of the short track... stuff happens.
Again... it seems Apolo is taking this far better than you are

	18-02-2002 07:52									#33
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I was surprised they let so many competitors in one race. Its an awfully small track. Someone compared it to Nascar

	18-02-2002 07:57									#34
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Oh, of course, glonky, it's just a part of the game. That's why they disqualified the one they thought at the time started the fight, right there on the ice. Oh, btw, I can live with you calling me little to piss me off if you can live with me constantly moaning "Meep" to piss you off.

Meep! Meep! Meep! Enjoy it.

quote: Again... it seems Apolo is taking this far better than you are

What happened to the three evasive rolleyes? Must've defected over here. Sorry bout that, mingy, they don't work for you anymore.

Meep! Meep! Meep!

quote: I was surprised they let so many competitors in one race. Its an awfully small track. Someone compared it to Nascar

What's your point? Meep, it's totally irrelevant here.

	18-02-2002 08:03									#35
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It's a bit like Australia in World Cup qualfying. First they choke against Iran in '98, and then they lose in Uruguay this past year. Can't catch a break. Personally, I like the Olympics because it seems to be the only sport where the team I support is actually any good.

	18-02-2002 08:03									#36
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I think Wiglaf should start a different thread and tell us what he thinks sport is.

I'm glad he got the Gold medal - its a nice story with a good moral.

	18-02-2002 09:23									#37
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Wiggy's getting funnier and funnier.

I laughed my ass off while reading his posts, and got especially amused by those taking him at face value.

	18-02-2002 09:29									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf (snip) Meep! Meep! Meep! (/snip)

Oh man, thats funny!

	18-02-2002 09:49									#39
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I LOL when I saw the race. tis is the reason I like the Games. You get to see sports you never get to see. At least when NBC decides not to bless us with figure skating.

	18-02-2002 10:20									#40
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Well all I can say is:

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	18-02-2002 10:25									#41
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I like the sense of humor that the Aussies are showing over this. The winner concedes he was lucky, but he'll take the medal anyway

	18-02-2002 10:29									#42
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He's said he was lucky to win - but he's also said he was hanging back in hopes of getting a bronze if someone made a mistake.

He also said, at the time he thought they might re-run the race and he wouldn't have been surprised if they had

	18-02-2002 10:34									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Find something else to whine about, Wiglaf. If you knew anything about the sport you'd realize that in short track speed skating this kind of stuff is all too common. Get Over It, little man.

I seem to recall a few people telling the Canadians something very similar several days ago.

	18-02-2002 10:36									#44
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I seem to recall a few people telling the Canadians something very similar several days ago.

Um. If this involved corrupt officials, by all means, they should appeal it. I don't think it was, though.

Your point is also lost on the fact that the Canadians went from silver to bronze because of the pileup. We got bumped down a medal too.

Go troll elsewhere.

	18-02-2002 10:40									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Asher If this involved corrupt officials, by all means, they should appeal it. I don't think it was, though.

If you knew anything about the history of Olympic figure skating you'd realize that kind of stuff is all too common and that you should go whine somewhere else.

If we are going to award medals on the basis of bad judging, why stop with Canadians, when Olympic history is full of wrongs that we could correct?

	18-02-2002 10:42									#46
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc If you knew anything about the history of Olympic figure skating you'd realize that kind of stuff is all too common and that you should go whine somewhere else.

What's been up your ass lately, anyway?

Of course there's been a history of it. And now it's time to put a stop by it. Oh God Heavens it's so horrible that the French judge was caught.

You and Wiggy are very similar. That's not a good thing.

	18-02-2002 10:43									#47
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Whenever I see that avatar I wonder what has been up your ass

	18-02-2002 10:44									#48
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quote: If we are going to award medals on the basis of bad judging, why stop with Canadians, when Olympic history is full of wrongs that we could correct?

Well, these are entirely different cases for one, dipshit.

It was PATENTLY OBVIOUS who the medal should have gone to. There were allegations and then admissions of collusion that came.

In this case, an event that is not uncommon in the least (a giant pileup) occurs, and one skater gets the medal. If you knew anything about the sport, you'd know that this is NOT abnormal and is well within sport rules.

When judges collude, that's NOT within sport rules. That's why everyone was whining (coincidentally, the American press made a bigger deal out of it than the Canadian press but I'll let that slide).

	18-02-2002 10:44									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Of course there's been a history of it. And now it's time to put a stop by it.

By giving medals to Canadian teams who failed to earn them?

	18-02-2002 10:45									#50
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc By giving medals to Canadian teams who failed to earn them?

Are you really that blind?

Has anyone accused you of being a DL before? You consistently post with the "shades" icon, much like another troll we know...

	18-02-2002 10:53									#51
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Man, the Australian won by the rules in the short-track. Stupidly, but by the rules. Falls are supposed to be a part of the game. Vote-swapping, despite its ubiquity is not supposed to be part of figure skating. See the difference?

If the Australians had colluded with the Chinese, then you'd have a point. Otherwise, you're just trolling.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Has anyone accused you of being a DL before? You consistently post with the "shades" icon, much like another troll we know...

No, when I post as a DL I never use the...................

	18-02-2002 10:56									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Are you really that blind?

I see quite clearly and what I saw was whining on the part of the general public get a team gold medals instead of actual talent.

quote: Has anyone accused you of being a DL before?

No, I must have missed that craze when I came to the OT. Have one of the mods "vet" me if you wish.

	18-02-2002 10:59									#54
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Let's ask Steve what he thinks:

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	18-02-2002 11:01									#55
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Have one of the mods "vet" me if you wish.

At least on the point of him being a DL... he's clean
But feel free to think of him however you want

	18-02-2002 11:02									#56
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Dino, would you please address my point?

	18-02-2002 11:03									#57
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I see quite clearly and what I saw was whining on the part of the general public get a team gold medals instead of actual talent.

And quite clearly the whining of the public allowed the Canadian Military to force the people, at gun point, to confess to collusion and vote-swapping.

Surely the GeneralPublic^TM conspired ahead of time also to all react the same way once the judgement was initially reached.

quote: No, I must have missed that craze when I came to the OT. Have one of the mods "vet" me if you wish.

Maybe you're related to Wiggy then.

	18-02-2002 11:05									#58
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*horse checks his DL list*

Nope, he's definitely not one of mine

	18-02-2002 11:09									#59
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Man, the Australian won by the rules in the short-track. Stupidly, but by the rules. Vote-swapping, despite its ubiquity is not supposed to be part of figure skating.

a) I'm not challenging the Aussie's right to his medal. Personally, if I were him I'd buy a few lottery tickets while I was in the States with the way his luck is running.

b) The solution to vote swapping is to ban the judge(s) for life from the sport, not to award medals to who ever won the crowd over to thier side, a la gladiatorial combat.

quote: Dino, would you please address my point?

I'm sorry that I missed your post earlier.

Ming: At least on the point of him being a DL... he's clean

I'll be hurt if you actually had to check on that point.

	18-02-2002 11:10									#60
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quote: If you knew anything about the sport you'd realize that in short track speed skating this kind of stuff is all too common.

I'm not sure that the Korean skater pulling down, purposely, the American skater was legal or common.