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Darkstar
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Huntsville, AL, USA
May 1999
time: 23:12
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I'm living on planet earth, Harel. How about you?
You can go digging for where they had stated that. I'd thought it would have been 18 to 24 months timeline for things of Civ2 caliber (for a small group of people that work decently together).
However, I do have a few friends in the Game Entertainment business, and they assure me that everything they've ever been connected with had somewhere between 0 to 6 months of futzing about before the team was dragged in, and then typically 4 to 8 months to hard deadline. A couple of those games are/were decent PC sellers, so taking THEIR word for it (and I've never caught them lying to me about things programming related), I am inclined to believe that typical, and not untypical.
Now, you have to remember, that TECHNICALLY, Civ3 is been in the making since Brian Reynolds began considering how to make the sequel to Civ2. How long has that been? A designer or two CAN "futz" about, laying out basic design for a long time, I'd suppose, before the project was given a green light. And if Sid has been messing about with Dinosaurs since before he left Microprose, that means Dinosaurs has been in "concept" for a long time. When did he first consider the idea? All good apps start as thought projects by their developers... You don't get a team together and just go forward when making games, do you? We don't in the real world apps. We decide what we are after... a designer considers what's needed. Perhaps for quite a while (seconds, hours, days, weeks, months, years) before code starts. Teams formed, design's specked and tightened.
I really don't expect most games happen too differently... aside from there is a vaguer target when it's started, it's still code. Code is code. You design, test, debug, and repeat. You close in on your target, one small step per coder per pass... until the deadline that was so far off suddenly starts looming at least...  {If you want to know what happens during Crunches, well, that's a Coder's Secret. I could tell you, but then you'd have to be chained to a computer here for the rest of your life...}
-Darkstarr
(just ranting along... it's a slow monday...)
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Tim Train FIRAXIS
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FWIW, (and I apologize if this has already been answered elsewhere) this game will not release in 2000 and has never been slated for that timeframe. We're still a long ways from figuring out a release date. We plan to make Civ 3 a triple-A title in every category, including of course art, design, AI, and playbalance; unfortunately these things take time. But happily, when we're there, you will have the best incarnation of the series, and we won't release it until it is the best.
Hope this clarifies!
Tim
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zaz
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I was planning on buying a new system this year, but with that statement ("We plan on making Civ 3 Triple- A in every category"), I fear that anything I could buy today will not be up to spec when Civ3 is finaly released. This may keep a large portion of the gaming public from being able to buy the game. My current system is only 2 years old and already I can't play half of what's out there.
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Buy a new system. 
No, but seriously, too good graphics would mean a hit on the customisability on which Civ2 mainly built its following.
What will the Departure of BR mean when related to the release date?
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:12
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Spring of 2002. Just in time for the summer season so that I can't work to pay for the college semester that I had just wasted waiting for Civ III.
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bagdar
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Turkey
Jan 2001
time: 07:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Adm.Naismith on 01-17-2001 08:18 AM
No, I bet Civ III will be released THIS (2001) year. Ready or not.
They haven't Sid Dinos to sell in the waiting until 2002, as I supposed a year ago. Fresh money matters.
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And that's what makes me want ot believe a 2001 release also. Of course we don't want the game to be finished hastily, but it'll be almost three years if it's released toward the end of this year. Also, on the website, they say that they are hoping for a fully-fledged product site by spring-summer. How much later can the release be? I hope it doesn't take long to hit the shelves in my country.
speaking of a "release", I recall this:
some time ago, a conversation like this had happened:
friend: civ 3 is released
me: what? when? how? where did you see it?
friend: that's what this magazine says. but it's no longer Sid Meier, i think activision will release it. It says that there are many more improvements, advances and nations.
So as soon as I was finished with school business, I rushed to buy C(Drop it soon!):CTP  Back then, what made me hesitate at first was that there was no Sid, and I was right in my prejudice. I'm sure that many of you, when asked for an explanation for rotten school grades, accused "Sid Meier", because that's what Civ means.  Now I'm waiting for the *real* sequel and it WILL be magnificent.
[This message has been edited by bagdar (edited January 17, 2001).]
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When ever the release date is...I just hope that Firaxis/Hasbro doesn't release a lemon like Activision did with CTP2!
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