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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
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Actually I'm 90% certain we DID supply intel...I'd have to check though.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
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The USN had two crrier groups in the South Atlantic ready to move in and clease the skys and airfeilds. |
It's also worth noting that the transfer of these carriers (and the Royal Navy) significantly depleted LantFlt, to the point that if the Sovs had attacked it would have been big trouble in the North Atlantic for a while.
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
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Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Actually David, that's not true. The USA provided no help to Britain whatsoever during the Falklands conflict, indeed Reagan (despite his close relationship with Thatcher) did not want to see the conflict at all. In fact, from his inaction you'd have thought that the Argentines were his ally. Not that he had a track record of supporting South American dictators or anything...  |
Sorry Iain, but your very wrong.
The US provided intell satellite info, rushed special nightfighting goggles for Brit ground forces (taken from US stocks) and took over Nato warship commitments to free up Brit shipping, as well as sending numerous military stores Britain's way, while refusing to resupply Argentina (which used many US weapon types).
US Sec A Haig flew back and forth between London and Buenos Aires continually in an attempt to mediate the conflict, and he faild misirably (he was a moron, BTW).
Paul, this had nothing to do with getting Thatcher re-elected, I loathe revionist history is why I mention it.
The Argentine dictator had a poor grasp on power, and attempted to force the issue, since Britain was considering giving Argentina the place (which is absolutly worthless) in an effort to gain popularity.
The Falklanders almost unanimously voted to remain with Britain, wanting nothing to do with a comic opera dictatorship.
The invasion was launched with the assumption it would be accepted as fait acompli, but it greatly angered Britons at the time (ask your parents what they thought about it).
Operation Corporate was carried out under extremly adverse conditions, and was a fine feat of arms.
Laz, the Arrgie AF was operating at the end of it's range, so it's combat ability was severely limited, it was forced to come in at predictable angles and so it was easy for the Harriers to intercept.
The damage it managed was quite impressive despite this.
For it's rep, the Exocet actually only had two successes, Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor, and many misses, it wasn't an effective weapons system.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:18
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There would have been some depletion of strenth for a short period, but the carrier groups are very fast and mobile, and we were keeeping an eye on the soviets as noted above. The surface and anti-submarine groups of the Atlantic Fllet were on increaed readiness at the time, and the anti subgroups woulb be the first into action with any soviet conflict. The Brit fleet, however, would have been much more hard pressed to take up duties in the North atlantic and Norwegian Sea. |
Yes, but considering that NATO doctrine required 4 carrier battlegroups for operation in the North Atlantic, there would have been little naval support for Norway, and the Soviet battlefleet could have sortied, covered by heavy bombers. Further, US convoys would either have been decimated, or waited a few days before sailing, with bad results - not only would the supplies be late, but the Sovs would have more time to throw submarines through the GIUK gap.
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Simon Darkshade
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Evil HQ, Adelaide, South Australia
May 2001
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Maggie could have saved a lot of money and simply nuked Buenos Aires as a warning.  
The Argie invasion was an evil act, and was soundly thrashed by Her Majesty's forces, even though they were not ideally suited to the role of long range power projection.
It would have been interesting if the fleet carriers had not been decommissioned a few years previous, as well as the Tiger class cruisers, and maybe even HMS Vanguard (This equipment was old, but it is interesting to consider the hypotheticals. Indeed, if all of these, or even the first, had still been in effective service, the invasion would not have taken place.)
But it was a triumph for the British military. Heck, they even bombed Port Stanley airfield with the relics of V-Force! 
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