03-05-2002 19:40									#61
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quote: Originally posted by LordAzreal Why people would want to join a cult anyway is totally beyond me. I agree with the World Union of Deist's definition of a cult: "...any organization that encourages people to believe or act without reason." So therefore, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc. are all cults. All have the intent of mind control over the masses. All of them fear individuality and free will.

I disagree, cults are specialists in reason, grand architects of whole systems of reason in fact. Just remember that reason is not the opposite of insanity, sanity is the opposite of insanity. You'll find that many fruit-of-the-forest flake and nut bar enjoyers have very cohesive reasons for believing or doing what they believe in or do.

I make no real distinction between cults and religions, the only difference between them is that some are bigger or older, and some are able to hold down a steady job whilst being a cult or religion. I don't understand why some cults tend to kill themselves though, you'd think your average cult leader would want to keep a "good" thing going >shrugs<.

I'm a panathiest, and humbly accept the universe is infinately vaster then I am and all that I know- and infinately awesome and full of mystery, and therefore has no need to recieve my praises or my money, oh and being infinately part of it anyway I have no need to hope for an eternal ego of some kind when I'm done cycling biomatter, things that matter to me still matter, why anthropomorphisize things by believing in some kind of cosmic alpha-male boss-guy, its... small minded and foolish.

	03-05-2002 21:44									#62
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Cults, i see as wanting something from you, leading you on to get something from you therefore: Catholocism iss a cult, the pope wants your cash and the local preists..... we'll leave that alone, just hold on to your kids during communion.

Protestant churches though, they don't think up weird stuff like Indulgences or any of the other Catholic scemes to get some $$ to maintain the bloody vatican. The offerings are free will and quite frankly in my experience it's not that emberassing to miss one. They're formed to give you something, if it's a cult it's a pretty backwards one.

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Any chance of a response Chegitz?

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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Any chance of a response Chegitz?

Nope. I'm bored now.

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You would be more interested if I really was in a cult I suppose.

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Probably.


Of course, no one who is in a cult ever admits that they are in a cult.

	04-05-2002 08:14									#68
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Of course, no one who is in a cult ever admits that they are in a cult.

haha, what are you trying to tell us Chegitz? Theres something your not telling us isnt there....

	04-05-2002 11:40									#69
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I can't be in a cult. I'm holed up in my apartment with no visitors. If I'm in a cult, it's a cult of one.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I can't be in a cult. I'm holed up in my apartment with no visitors. If I'm in a cult, it's a cult of one.

COOL! We have seen the future and it's Che! Long live the People's Cult of ONE!

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...or cult of personality

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quote: Originally posted by problem_child I disagree, cults are specialists in reason, grand architects of whole systems of reason in fact. Just remember that reason is not the opposite of insanity, sanity is the opposite of insanity. You'll find that many fruit-of-the-forest flake and nut bar enjoyers have very cohesive reasons for believing or doing what they believe in or do.

Reason, or Logic is an opposite to Emotion. Insanity is the inability to suppress emotion with logic. Is the relationship clear yet? Of course sanity/insanity are opposites. Neither logic, nor emotion are most important. Rationality is important. A balance between emotion and reason. An institution that has you go one way or the other is being irrational. So I guess I need to deviate from the WUD definition I gave earlier. Perhaps "...any organization that encourages people to believe or act irrationally." is a better way to put it.

quote: I make no real distinction between cults and religions, the only difference between them is that some are bigger or older, and some are able to hold down a steady job whilst being a cult or religion. I don't understand why some cults tend to kill themselves though, you'd think your average cult leader would want to keep a "good" thing going >shrugs<.

I agree. Christianity is a cult, because it encourages emotion, but no logic. Confucianism is a cult because it encourages logic, but no emotion. The only religious institution I don't see as a cult is Buddhism, as it encourages you to find the middle path, the balance in everything. Though I consider Buddhism more philosophical than religious. And it is the philosophy that I follow to an extent.

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