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KrazyHorse is offline KrazyHorse
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Crap. Hockey games have caused more destruction than any war we've ever fought.

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But not as much destruction as English Soccer Hooligans...

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Orange, I'm going to have to remind you of the criterion you should apply :

If Canada could kick their ass, then they're not a powerful country.


assuming that Apolyton member statistics are an accurate representation of world population, Fins make up over half the global population!

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They are meisters of propaganda.

Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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Orange:

Also black people don't exist (except for General_BT who vanished two years ago)...

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AS,

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Germany and Japan are economically powerful (well Germany was before its economy has become tied into the EU), but they lack the military forces (and natural resources, despite their technological manufacturing) to be influential.


Actually Japan has the world's second largest military budget despite spending only 1% of their GDP on defense, and Germany has the most powerful military (arguably) in Europe.

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Germany has the most powerful military (arguably) in Europe.


And they are economically AND industrially powerful (Eastern Europe mostly used Deutche Marks up until the Euro showed up)... hmm maybe an update to Civ3 is neccessary in near future...

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That's because Canada doesn't need to blow it's money on a large military. It doesn't have a large, agressive country next to it that outweighs it in population 10-to....

Oh wait, damn.

Point is, The Aussies never had 10% of it's armed might held hostage by a disgruntled shipping company. That is all.


ROFLMAO!!

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Quiet, you. We could invade Australia any time we wanted.

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How long did you think about it before you posted this topic?

Pekka is offline Pekka
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Finland without a doubt! I can prove it too.
When i was doing my manditory one year service, they told me we're the toughest. So it must be!

Well maybe not overtaking countries and attacking, but defending, now come on! Try us! -making wwf faces and tries to look tough-

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The only area where Russia has us beat is military. apart from that, they're nowhere more powerful and influential than us. And if you guys gave us our property in Central Europe back (quiet, Poles!), we'd rule

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and Finland did beat the crap out of russians... so that makes Finland the best? Yeah!

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Who controls the Apolyton controls the ?, who controls the ? controls the world, and Finns control the Apolyton, so we must control the world.

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Stefu, you know it!
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Do these threads just get started by Americans wanting to crow about their supremacy?

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Australia, despite its lack of a large army, is known as a country with quite a reliable army. And shaddup about Gallipoli. That was the brit's fault.
Israel also has a very good army. Not very big, but very high quality in manpower and technology. The only reason Israel couldn't whoop all of the ME is because they couldn't control the population afterwords.

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Do these threads just get started by Americans wanting to crow about their supremacy?


Funny you should say that

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Alternative 'country' threads:

Which country has the highest rate of morbid obesity?

Which piece of military equipment has the highest cost and lowest usefulness?

Which country has conducted the most nuclear tests?

Which country has the lowest survival rates for cancer? (Britain I think)

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Do these threads just get started by Americans wanting to crow about their supremacy?


Many get started by Euros. Why they would want to brag about being number 2 is beyond me.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Quiet, you. We could invade Australia any time we wanted.


Hell, to invade Australia you would need at least some sort of navy...


Seriously though, neither Australia nor Canada are currently close to being superpowers. China has a shot at it.

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and Finland did beat the crap out of russians...


Losing parts of its territory each time during this procces.

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Do these threads just get started by Americans wanting to crow about their supremacy?

Of course.
This is a typical American "we are the best of the best of the best" thread.

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This a typical American "we are the best of the best of the best" thread.


It is one of the perks of being a hegemon.

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He...he...mon?

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He...he...mon?


Don't worry. I don't expect you to know how to spell the word given that you are likely an inmate in a gulag and wouldn't now the perks of living in a truely powerful State.

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Don't worry. I don't expect you to know how to spell the word given that you are likely an inmate in a gulag and wouldn't now the perks of living in a truely powerful State.


Gulag?
I don't expect that you associate Siberia with something else then gulags.
As for spelling of word hegemony, I know perfectly how it's spell, I was laughing on you.
A perks of living in a truly powerful State?
Like to be an arrogant and ignorant redneck?

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Hmmm...DD is from Missouri...

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Actually I thought not about DD, but about person who started this thread.

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  1. The USA. No need to explain further.
  2. Russia. They have the greatest wealth of land in the world, and a hell of a lot of natural resources. They beat out China because China is in a somewhat inefficient system. The capitalist economy will turn Russia into a second USA eventually. Russia probably won't overtake the US because the states have such a headstart and because the USA has a much better climate, but they will become powerful. Hopefully, the political system won't get too corrupt.
  3. This is the most difficult choice to make, but I'd have to say China. Its population and giant army might have been enough, but the fact that India has two enemies pushes China over the line. If there was an East-Asian war, China and Pakistan together would beat the hell out of India. But anyway, this paragraph isn't supposed to be about why India isn't in this spot, its supposed to be about why China is. I have quite a bit of confidence in the Communist system compared to most Americans. The Communist Chinese will be able to ride through economic depressions and get everybody when they aren't prepared.
  4. India. Big land holdings, big population, and a capitalist economy. Those are very important in my opinion. A capitalist economy can bring many nations that appear troubled to the highest position in the world. Though India still has to deal with threats from two sides if war breaks out. Pakistan's army won't be much of a threat, but the fact that China can use it as a base is important.
  5. Here come the small but economically powerful nations.... starting with Germany. Powerful economy, and big land area for a euro nation.
  6. Japan. Economy is great, but two hydrogen bombs could obliterate it in a war. (Countries wouldn't hydrogen bomb Germany because the contamination would anger the surrounding nations.) Japan is surrounded by water, and China would be more happy than angry if someone destroyed Japan. Not to mention that Japan also depends on trade for literally everything.
  7. England. It has no big enemies, and even if it did get into a war, it has a lot of national spirit, a water border, and a history of winning.
  8. France. It has a great economy, but their army doesn't ever win anything, and the "French Resistance" was bullshit. Its membership grew forty times larger after the second world war ended. Additionally, everyone hates them.
  9. Singapore. Like Japan, but smaller.
  10. Finland. (Not just to appease our Finnish members.) Seriously. They are technologically advanced, and perhaps quite loaded with oil. But I'm not sure about this one. Feedback, anyone? Israel? Taiwan? South Korea? Indonesia? Australia? Canada? Italy? Mexico? Brazil? Please criticize my list.

 
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