24-04-2001 11:20									#151
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I think the main problem then is caravans, or trade by city production. I'm pretty sure that the problem is going away. If you read closely the CGW article and the website, it is noted that cities are trading commodoties when connected by road or harbor, not by unit. I can hope that the connection is automatic. Then trade is opporated not by caravans, but on your infrastructure (roads harbors) and what you ahve to give (resources within your city radius). This could also mean that half your civ has oil, while the other doesn't if you don't provide the infrastructure for its transport. Looking at it from that perspective, I really like the idea of trade as it appears to be modeled in CivIII

	24-04-2001 22:00									#152
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cyklotron: I agree. I may have another way of expression myself but I agree.

	25-04-2001 08:25									#153
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Trading should be valuable but not essential. If you can develope a strat in which you dont have to use trade then thats good. If you develope a strat which uses trade, then good. And by the way, trade did not provoke our biggest wars. Religion did.
Religious wars:
All 12 Crusades
WW2
Serbia/Kosovo/Macedonia/Croatia/its a big mess
Ottoman Empire vs. Constanstinople
Moors wars (Reconquista)
France vs. islam (12th century with Roland, Charlemange and Pepin the Brief)
Roman Eastern Empire vs. Roman Western Empire
Pakistan vs. India (although its not much of a war)
Civil war in Sudan (majority islamics against rebel catholics)
Somalia (same stlye as sudan but different religions)
Anglo-Saxons vs. Normans

When a populace changed religion, they allied themselves with people of the same religion
Vikings, Romanians
When Protestanism came along, there was another switch in allegiances
Germany (Prot.) Austria Hungary (Prot. ) UK (Prot.) and the Nordic countries grew closer together
France (Catho) Ireland (Catho) Spain (Catho), Italy (Catho)

Religion has caused more deaths than any other reason. During the Crusades, the Crusaders looted, pillaged, and burned as much as they fought the Muslims.It was a sort of excuse the whole 'free the holy land'. The Hugenots, Calvinists, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims in France and Spain were killed off or forced to switch during the Inquisition. Threre was no trade involved in this.

In conclusion i want to say that i have nothing against any religions and that i am not trying to prove that they are bad etc etc.
Also, I dont know quite what this whole post has to do with the subject, but ill post it anyways,

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