29-04-2002 08:14									#91
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger What was the content of the chapter, Tingkai, that I missed out on as a result of my professor cramming ignorance down my throat? Oh, that's right, you don't even know the name of the book, do you. Your audacity is appalling.

I base my statements on the information you provide. This prof, according to you, did not say that the information was of poor quality. According to you, the prof simply said that the only thing you need to know about women in the west is that there were women in the west.

That's a completely assine statement. The prof is covering up his ears and eyes and screaming like a little child. Like I said, the prof is a twit. And if you believe that he is right....

	29-04-2002 08:17									#92
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You are in college, you have a choice to study African-American history. More power to you.

We are talking about High School, where people should be taught the basic history of the country. That means more emphasis on the events and less on the minority groups view of things. If you want to learn in depth about minorities, there are college classes for that.

	29-04-2002 08:18									#93
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quote: And if you believe that he is right....

Like he said, it was she. Sorry if a woman not caring about women in the old west bursts your bubble about the evil white man .

	29-04-2002 08:28									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai I base my statements on the information you provide.

And fill in the rest using your own biased assumptions?

quote: This prof, according to you, did not say that the information was of poor quality.

According to me, she said that the information was useless.

quote: According to you, the prof simply said that the only thing you need to know about women in the west is that there were women in the west.

According to me, the prof simply said that the only thing you need to know about the chapter was that there were women in the west.

quote: That's a completely assine statement. The prof is covering up his ears and eyes and screaming like a little child. Like I said, the prof is a twit. And if you believe that he is right....

"Her" and "She," not "His" and "He."

I'm still amazed that you know the exact content of the chapter without even having read the book.

Are you trying to see how deep you can dig a hole for yourself here? You're doing a pretty good job of it...

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I'd make 'em read Demon Haunted World.

	29-04-2002 08:48									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar I'd make 'em read Demon Haunted World.

Haven't heard of it. What's it about?

	29-04-2002 08:57									#97
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Haven't heard of it. What's it about?

One of Carl sagan's books. Basically, it talks about pseudo-science (Bigfoot,Atlantis, UFOs) and it's daners. Debunks a lot of stuff.

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Physics

	29-04-2002 09:07									#99
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loinburger: Based on the information you provided, your prof is a twit. Particularly because it leads to students, like yourself, making the following comment:

quote: Originally posted by loinburger "You know what women did in the Old West? Not a whole heck of a lot, that's what. That's why my prof skipped the chapter--who wants to learn about butter churning?"

And what you can't seem to understand is the content of the book is not relevant to my comments. No historian should say: "The only thing you need to know about these people is that they lived."


Based on your comments, I think the one required course for students should be logics/critical thought.

Enough said.

	29-04-2002 09:20									#100
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger 'There were women in the Old West.' That is all I will expect you to know from this chapter for the next test. Now, on to the next chapter."

I notice that all of the offended individuals conviently ignored about four words from the above quote.

David

	29-04-2002 09:26									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Particularly because it leads to students, like yourself, making the following comment

The comment summed up the chapter. I already said that the book covered important parts of history, like Women's Suffrage, not unimportant parts of history, like butter churning.

quote: And what you can't seem to understand is the content of the book is not relevant to my comments. No historian should say: "The only thing you need to know about these people is that they lived."

What you can't seem to understand is that she didn't say that. She said that the chapter was useless, not that women didn't do anything in the Old West. You're so arrogantly blind in your self-righteousness that you've completely ignored what I said--not particularly surprising, for if you already know the content of an entire book without having opened it I suppose you feel that you already know the entire content of somebody's posts without actually having to read them.

quote: Based on your comments, I think the one required course for students should be logics/critical thought.

Based on your comments, you are apparently about the most presumptuous self-righteous poster on all of Apolyton. You assumed a. that the chapter we skipped was the only one in the book that said anything about women, b. that my professor was a man, c. that the professor skipped the chapter because he (actually she, but we're going off of your assumptions here) doesn't believe that women contributed anything and not because the chapter was, in fact, useless, and in conclusion, d. that my professor is a twit. You can perhaps be forgiven for your assumptions (despite how grossly inaccurate they are), yet you stubbornly stuck with your assumptions even when I corrected you on them. Simply incredible.

I think that we've jacked this thread enough, so if you want to continue to be a self-righteous airhead I suggest that you start a new thread for it. Give it a title like "I'm so damned omniscient that I can make snap judgments about anything I bloody well want to."

	29-04-2002 09:27									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Big Dave I notice that all of the offended individuals conviently ignored about four words from the above quote.

Some people will go to great lengths to ignore the truth if gives them something to be offended about. But I digress.

	29-04-2002 10:31									#103
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun How presumptuous of you to think that courses on minority groups is bad. I have enjoyed the African-American history course that I will be completing in a couple of weeks. A lot on this group that was not covered in the usual history courses.

I think that African-Americans have far more important history than others

most, like gay/bi, don't have enough to dedicate a chapter all their own in a general course (now of course I do think that gay/bi man should be covered if he was important, it is only that he should not be covered for being gay/bi, rather for what he did)

Jon Miller

	29-04-2002 10:46									#104
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Jon Miller, there are entire books written about prominent people who could be argued that they were gay, lesbian or bisexual who lived from the ancient era, to those who are alive today.

	29-04-2002 11:13									#105
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I know

but they have not been as important for being a culture group until recently

they were just gay romans or gay russians

they weren't there own culture

Jon Miller

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