04-05-2002 14:35									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns I'll try joining too, cuz it looks like fun.

Dont forget to prepare a calculator.

	04-05-2002 14:59									#32
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quote: Dont forget to prepare a calculator.

now that you mention it, i still have to dl angel

	04-05-2002 15:37									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits OK Warz: kd = kingdom? AE = ? I shall try again this w/e - I might get lucky - as a Canadian do you count as US within the meaning of the Utopian act? Please don't take that as any kind of insult .... SG[1]

AE = Ancient Empires...it's Kd-related, not game-related.

Canada is "North America - Canada" during registration, as opposed to "North America - USA".

	04-05-2002 22:21									#34
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AE i believe is an alliance......Scouse , there are alot of them in utopia...its not exactly what i wanted when i joined but defecting is lame and these guys will take care of me

	04-05-2002 23:57									#35
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I, for example, am a member of the United Angels - or UA.

	05-05-2002 10:18									#36
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chowlett, i love that avatar..i remeber in a thread awhile back you telling someone what it was....can you tell me what it is again....some sort of 3/D detergent bottle seriously though its though

	05-05-2002 17:10									#37
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever some sort of 3/D detergent bottle seriously though its though

Look for the brand "Klein" at your local supermarket

	05-05-2002 17:55									#38
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It's a Klein Bottle - follow the link in my sig!

Basically - you know how if you take a strip of paper, give one end a half-twist and stick it to the other ond, you get a loop with only one side (try it if you haven't done so) - called a Möbius strip? Well, the Klein Bottle is a 4-D version of that. You can even make a 3-D one, if you don't mind it self-intersecting. That's what the guy on the other end of my signature does.

	05-05-2002 22:14									#39
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Zopper you always beat every one to the punch.....BTW how is your kd coming along? i am going in vacation mode for three days..taking off to Galiano with a girl......

Chowlett......i may have to get myself one of those

	06-05-2002 01:54									#40
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The Kds coming along OK, I'm hoping to move into War tomorrow, or Tuesday at the latest.

	06-05-2002 13:23									#41
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looks like i landed in a good kingdom, this one is doing even better than my old one on BF, and most of these people where placed randomly in this kingdom

quote: Sword of SammathNaur (13:8) Kingdom Analysis [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] ** Statistics ** Provinces in Kingdom: 24 Total Land: 8,483 Acres (Average: 353 Acres) Total Networth: 775,405gc (Average: 32,309gc) Average Networth per Acre: 91.41gc Dragon Cost: 1,356,959gc (259 soldiers for 1%) Dragon Send Range: 620,324gc - 930,486gc

and here's how i'm doing...remember, i started one day late

quote: The Province of Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] Utopian Date: June 4th, YR0 RL Date: May 6th, 2002 (10:00 GMT) Ruler Name: Mr. Lemmy the Rogue Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling Land: 328 Acres Money: 197,698gc Food: 26,496 bushels Runes: 3,326 runes Population: 7,028 citizens (21.43 per Acre) Peasants: 4,143 (100% Employed) Jobs: 4,703 (110% Utilization, Possibly Mills) Trade Balance: 0gc (0% tax rate) Networth: 29,010 (88.45 per Acre) Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 2,359gc Soldiers: 0 (39.7% estimated draft rate) Spearmen: 0 Archers: 2,494 (9,976 defense points) Half-Giants: 0 War-Horses: 0 Prisoners: 0 Total Attack points: 0 (0.00 per Acre) Practical (60% elites): 0 (0.00 per Acre) Total Defense points: 9,976 (30.41 per Acre) Practical (40% elites): 9,976 (30.41 per Acre) [500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation] Thieves: 297 (0.59 per Acre / 95% Stealth) Wizards: 94 (0.29 per Acre / 92% Mana) Crystal-Ball on your province will show: Maximum Possible Thieves: 393 (0.79 per Acre) Estimated Thieves Number: 295 (0.59 per Acre) Maximum Possible Wizards: 393 (1.20 per Acre) Estimated Wizards Number: 93 (0.28 per Acre) Buildings: 432gc to build, 432gc to raze Away bonus: 20,715gc (12h) / 62,145gc (20h)

	06-05-2002 20:28									#42
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Remember i started a day and a half late as welll



The Province of Fenway Park (22:36)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta]

Utopian Date: June 11th, YR0
RL Date: May 6th, 2002 (17:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Mr. McLellan the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Elf
Land: 358 Acres
Money: 1,237gc
Food: 72,542 bushels
Runes: 3,446 runes
Population: 7,858 citizens (21.95 per Acre)
Peasants: 4,334 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 4,156 (103% Utilization, Mills)
Trade Balance: 447gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 32,923 (91.96 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 2,214gc

Soldiers: 551 (43.9% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 100 (400 offense points)
Archers: 2,000 (8,000 defense points)
Elf Lords: 504 (2,520 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Attack points: 4,022 (11.23 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 2,762 (7.72 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 11,622 (32.46 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 10,362 (28.94 per Acre)

[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Thieves: 293 (0.59 per Acre / 33% Stealth)
Wizards: 76 (0.21 per Acre / 82% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Maximum Possible Thieves: 369 (0.74 per Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 277 (0.55 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 369 (1.03 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 87 (0.24 per Acre)

Buildings: 879gc to build, 440gc to raze
Away bonus: 21,670gc (12h) / 65,010gc (20h)

	11-05-2002 02:13									#43
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quote: Beyond Shadar Logoth (4:48) has surrendered to us! Our people rejoice at our victory!

BooYaH!

	11-05-2002 04:39									#44
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damm we lost our war ....doing a sci pump now....... 500 acres..my thieves took a beating today....lost well over 300 of them in ops

	11-05-2002 14:50									#45
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bhwa, sci-pumps, who needs 'm, i got 10-15% libraries all the time.
i only invested 5k points.

quote: Science Intelligence on Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] ** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) ** +14.1% Income (3,074 points) -21.4% Building Time (2,144 points) +10.2% Population Limits (5,168 points) +21.3% Food Production (2,149 points) +3% Offensive Military Strength (2,133 points) +27% Thievery Effectiveness (3,189 points) +19.7% Magic Effectiveness (2,140 points)

quote: The Province of Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] Utopian Date: April 5th, YR1 RL Date: May 11th, 2002 (11:00 GMT) Ruler Name: Sir Lemmy the Rogue Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling Land: 657 Acres Money: 446,672gc Food: 92,149 bushels Runes: 2,439 runes Population: 16,183 citizens (24.63 per Acre) Peasants: 8,193 (100% Employed) Jobs: 9,300 (110% Utilization, Possibly Mills) Trade Balance: -47,123gc (0% tax rate) Networth: 70,549 (107.38 per Acre) Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 10,713gc Soldiers: 3 (47.5% estimated draft rate) Spearmen: 0 Archers: 6,296 (25,184 defense points) Half-Giants: 0 War-Horses: 0 Prisoners: 0 Total Attack points: 6 (0.01 per Acre) Practical (60% elites): 6 (0.01 per Acre) Total Defense points: 25,190 (38.34 per Acre) Practical (40% elites): 25,190 (38.34 per Acre) Thieves: 1,380 (2.10 per Acre / 86% Stealth) Wizards: 311 (0.47 per Acre / 55% Mana) Crystal-Ball on your province will show: Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 1,786 (2.72 / Acre) Estimated Thieves Number: 1,340 (2.04 per Acre) Estimated Wizards Number: 423 (0.64 per Acre) Buildings: 514gc to build, 514gc to raze Away bonus: 40,965gc (12h) / 122,895gc (20h)

	19-05-2002 06:19									#46
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OK, we had a Hold as the result of our second War.

How's the rest of you lot doing?

	19-05-2002 14:43									#47
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too damn quiet
where finally planning for our first war now that most of us are above 100k nw....

I've just been exploring all age...

	21-05-2002 23:37									#48
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after three hits in 2 days, i decided to stop growing, and concentrate on thievery, magic, and science...

quote: The Province of Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] Utopian Date: July 14th, YR2 RL Date: May 21st, 2002 (20:00 GMT) Ruler Name: Sir Lemmy the Rogue Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling Land: 982 Acres Money: 463,029gc Food: 489,307 bushels Runes: 20,746 runes Population: 28,578 citizens (29.10 per Acre) Peasants: 9,927 (100% Employed) Jobs: 11,268 (110% Utilization, Possibly Mills) Trade Balance: 834,302gc (0% tax rate) Networth: 141,024 (143.61 per Acre) Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 34,944gc Soldiers: 0 (61.9% estimated draft rate) Spearmen: 0 Archers: 13,246 (52,984 defense points) Half-Giants: 0 War-Horses: 2 (up to 0 additional offense) Prisoners: 0 Total Attack points: 0 (0.00 per Acre) Practical (60% elites): 0 (0.00 per Acre) Total Defense points: 52,984 (53.96 per Acre) Practical (40% elites): 52,984 (53.96 per Acre) Thieves: 4,452 (4.53 per Acre / 38% Stealth) Wizards: 953 (0.97 per Acre / 74% Mana) Crystal-Ball on your province will show: Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 5,824 (5.93 / Acre) Estimated Thieves Number: 4,368 (4.45 per Acre) Estimated Wizards Number: 1,383 (1.41 per Acre) Buildings: 596gc to build, 596gc to raze Away bonus: 49,635gc (12h) / 148,905gc (20h)

quote: Science Intelligence on Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] ** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) ** +40.9% Income (13,591 points) -48.6% Building Time (11,035 points) +23.5% Population Limits (19,257 points) +72.7% Food Production (10,787 points) +9.4% Offensive Military Strength (9,012 points) +78.1% Thievery Effectiveness (14,445 points) +64.5% Magic Effectiveness (9,942 points) ** Science Points in Progress ** Housing: 208 points in progress

	22-05-2002 02:50									#49
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Looks good, the wpa is low-ish, try running 25-30% Guilds.

Anyway, here's me:

quote: The Province of Quebec (15:48) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] Utopian Date: July 17th, YR2 RL Date: May 21st, 2002 (23:00 GMT) Ruler Name: King Belthazor the Rogue Personality & Race: The Rogue, Elf Land: 786 Acres Money: 150,633gc Food: 42,568 bushels Runes: 5,310 runes Population: 21,701 citizens (27.61 per Acre) Peasants: 9,012 (100% Employed) Jobs: 9,416 (97% Utilization) Trade Balance: -140,324gc (0% tax rate) Networth: 123,681 (157.35 per Acre) Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 28,779gc Soldiers: 438 (55% estimated draft rate) Heroes: 0 Archers: 0 Elf Lords: 7,644 (38,220 offense and defense) War-Horses: 655 (up to 655 additional offense) Prisoners: 0 Total Attack points: 39,751 (50.57 per Acre) Practical (50% elites): 20,641 (26.26 per Acre) Total Defense points: 39,096 (49.74 per Acre) Practical (50% elites): 19,986 (25.43 per Acre) Thieves: 3,850 (4.90 per Acre / 100% Stealth) Wizards: 757 (0.96 per Acre / 82% Mana) Crystal-Ball on your province will show: Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 4,796 (6.10 / Acre) Estimated Thieves Number: 3,597 (4.58 per Acre) Estimated Wizards Number: 1,140 (1.45 per Acre) Buildings: 1,093gc to build, 546gc to raze Away bonus: 45,060gc (12h) / 135,180gc (20h)

	23-05-2002 06:31									#50
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Ahh, great, we got into an acre-struggle with 27:48, which is like a retal that got out of hand.
Then my Kd sh!ts its pants, because it doesn't want a Hostile with 27:48, so I was forced into declaring a different Kd this afternoon. But only a couple of hours they declare Peace on us, with a message from their Regent saying they don't War. And what do you know, a few hours after that, I get a message from a province in the same Kd saying that we should continue and that he wants a War.

I love this game...

	23-05-2002 13:52									#51
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*sigh*
i wish my kingdom was at war

now that we're finally preparing for war, there comes a new province, but experienced player, saying that we should wait another 2 weeks before declaring...i hope the king doesn't listen to him...hey, don't you guys have any friends on WoL, maybe they can declare on us

	23-05-2002 17:41									#52
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Wait two weeks?!?!?!

If someone in my Kd dared say that, he'd be killed

	23-05-2002 23:36									#53
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well, fortunately the king doesn't agree with him, so war is coming

but it would be after the weekend, since most of them can't play then.....i could raze my thieves dens and built mage guilds to get more wizards....yep, that's what i'm gonna do...

	23-05-2002 23:41									#54
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30% mage guilds..very soon

quote: Buildings Report of Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.31 Beta 2] 1. Farms: 67 (6.8%) 2. Mills: 196 (19.8%) 3. Guilds: 100 (10.1%) + 206 in progress (+20.8%) 4. Towers: 80 (8.1%) 5. Schools: 343 (34.6%) Total Land: 992 Acres (79.2% built) In Progress: 206 Acres (20.8%) ** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) ** 1. Produce 4,690 bushels per day (5,863 with FL) 2. -59.3% building costs, +19.8% to utilization 3. 2% chance of training a wizard daily (per guild) 4. Produce 800 runes per day 5. Increase science effectiveness by 51.9% ** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **

	27-05-2002 20:03									#55
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OK, this is hilarious

	02-06-2002 18:27									#56
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so..how're you doing?

i sort of stopped growing, i'm waiting for a friend to reach1k acres, and then we'll race and see who ends up bigger...

quote: The Province of Den of Hermes (13:8) [http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.32 Beta] Utopian Date: May 9th, YR4 RL Date: June 2nd, 2002 (14:00 GMT) Ruler Name: Sir Lemmy the Rogue Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling Land: 961 Acres Money: 460,446gc Food: 277,084 bushels Runes: 42,427 runes Population: 29,115 citizens (30.30 per Acre) Peasants: 5,304 (100% Employed) Jobs: 10,126 (80% Utilization) Trade Balance: 896,364gc (0% tax rate) Networth: 164,317 (170.99 per Acre) Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 49,722gc Soldiers: 0 (75.6% estimated draft rate) Spearmen: 0 Archers: 16,000 (64,000 defense points) Half-Giants: 0 War-Horses: 2 (up to 0 additional offense) Prisoners: 0 Total Attack points: 0 (0.00 per Acre) Practical (60% elites): 0 (0.00 per Acre) Total Defense points: 64,000 (66.60 per Acre) Practical (40% elites): 64,000 (66.60 per Acre) Thieves: 6,000 (6.24 per Acre / 100% Stealth) Wizards: 1,811 (1.88 per Acre / 91% Mana) Crystal-Ball on your province will show: Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 8,287 (8.62 / Acre) Estimated Thieves Number: 6,215 (6.47 per Acre) Estimated Wizards Number: 1,968 (2.05 per Acre) Buildings: 590gc to build, 590gc to raze Away bonus: 26,520gc (12h) / 79,560gc (20h)

	02-06-2002 20:33									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni OK, this is hilarious

Yeah, Morbo is a classic.(though the link is not working)

	03-06-2002 12:42									#58
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My province (I won't post an accurate CB or location because my KD is in the world top 50 on BF)

Elf Sorceror
2100 acres
About 72 DPA (79 DPA with Protection)
2.5 WPA (raw)
1.1 TPA
About 31000 Elf Lords

	03-06-2002 19:21									#59
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Dang, you guys have indeed been busy with getting big

But you haven't warred yet, while we've warred three times already, with a fourth War coming soon.

	07-06-2002 12:26									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni Dang, you guys have indeed been busy with getting big But you haven't warred yet, while we've warred three times already, with a fourth War coming soon.

Yep ... we decided to be NW-whores this age and so we're in the top 50 on BF. In previous ages, we have been honor-whores (finishing top 50), and we even had an age where we somehow finished in the top 50 on all 3 lists (nw, honor, land). We had a first-age newbie attacker reach 9000 acres a few ages ago.

When your kingdom is in the top 50, wars are far and few between. At that size, there are few good war targets, and the larger you get the fewer targets there are. And we usually declare the wars - the last time we got declared on was last November.