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The Viceroy
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tu mumbai se, mai Bombay se
Nov 2000
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I think we have to be careful not to tar groups of people with the same brush , the vast majority of Ethnic minorities can speak English , and very well .. the vast majority today, are born in the UK, and have no problems fitting in.
I have already said I find it objectionable that a person chooses to live in any country, only to activly hate it .. There are some people who do this, from all backgrounds .. but what do we do as a nation to stop this ??
I see so much good that comes from the different ethnic groups , Leicester has really benefitted from the business created by Gujarti's, and I have seen English people celebrating Diwali with them .. Great .. more celebrations !! There contacts with India have been extremely beneficial in trade .. and in my opinion, will become extremely important in the future .. for all those who hadn't thought of it yet .. how long will it be before we have an Indian Prime minister ???? not long as long as you think..
Differences make a people more interesting, not less .. we have everything to gain from mixing together .. and regardless of the actions of some stick in the muds who refuse to mix, mix we will.
Its an interesting fact, but the UK's national dish is no longer Fish & Chips .. but Curry !!
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mark13
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Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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Barley - it is times like this I can only be thankful that this sort of mentality is dying out in Britain today. I don't see at all how the Anglo-Saxon whites should 'take control' - that is about as racist as you can get. The majority of Britain today is a great example of how various cultures can integrate, and be better off for it - parties like the National Front are the only thing preventing fully peaceful co-operation, because they are bastards. It's as simple as that - Leicester is a fine example. I'm British, and I'm proud to be British. But I'm not proud to be British because of afternoon tea parties or fish and chips. I'm proud to be British because we are a tolerant, inclusive modern society, that for the most part doesn't judge people on the colour of their skin, or even the place of their birth. That, surely, is something we *can* be proud of - British culture, as well as British society, is changing - for the better.
Hell, if you want to, go and support the BNP in their plight, I'm sure they could use you. I'm sure being exposed to the sheer vitriol they spout would change your mind in itself - they want to drive the polluting Pakis out of our glorious country, it's as simple as that. Not something I'm particularly keen on, I must admit. 
Last edited by mark13 on 03-05-2002 at 19:16
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Clear Skies
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looking for a saviour in these dirty streets
Jul 2000
time: 05:13
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190 points and another coconut to Bugs.
The BNP are fascists, racists, and Nazis, and no-one can credibly argue that they aren't. One of Nick Griffin's convictions (he's the BNP Fuhrer, by the way) is for inciting racial hatred. He told a group of Ku Klux Klanners in America (and if the BNP is 'moderate' and non-racist then why are they soliciting support from the KKK) that he didn't intend to water down the BNP's neo-Nazi, racist beliefs but rather 'sell them', packaging them up in 'acceptable' language.
The truth is, racism and fascism are NOT acceptable no matter how you try to justify them. The rights of one group in society can never justifiably be put above any other, and everyone should be free to live in whichever country they wish. Britain's multicultural society is one of its greatest strengths, not a weakness which must be excised.
Oh, and the BNP gains are minuscule. Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party, one of the smallest in British politics, gained more votes in the General Election than they did in the locals, for crying out loud. The numer of independent candidates who were elected outnumbered the BNP several hundred to three (yes, it is three now - a recount let one of them in by a margin of four votes). The BNP is as marginal now as it ever was and so it shall remain - Britain will reject this Nazi party just as it rejected all the others.
My favourite quote from Contact:
"20 million people died defeating this son-of-a-***** (Hitler) and he's our first ambassador into outer space?"
The BNP must not be supported in any way. They are racists and fascists, pure and simple, and as such are totally abhorrent to any right-thinking person.
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Lazarus and the Gimp
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Whale-raping abomination
Aug 2000
time: 05:13
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Well where do you start with Barley? Where do you end?
He's terribly cross about middle-class, white English culture becoming "watered down". However the only example of this culture he provides is afternoon tea- an Indian custom that English colonials adopted (along with curry) and exported back to Britain. Nice one, Barley! Shooting yourself in both feet there, weren't you?
Still, don't let that put you off. Ladies and Gentleman, please study, if you will, a day in the life of Barley.
"Every morning I awake to the song of a noble English robin. Such a proud, patriotic little bird, not like those nasty swallows, cuckoos and songbirds that swarm in from Africa, spreading their foreign muck and disease. I lie back under my stiffly starched blankets (no nasty Scandinavian duvet for me!) and think about the good old war years. Then I switch on my wireless, carefully avoiding all that beastly negro rock and jazz, and tune into a brass band station.
I eat my white bread and marmalade breakfast and peruse the "Daily Mail" carefully. Then I stroll out past the Morris Dancers and stout, ruddy-faced peasant scum and stroll off to work. With any luck I won't have to misfortune to encounter the working classes today. My Bowler hat firmly wedged on, and my suit in traditional scratchy cloth (no frightful Scottish tweeds for me!).
Perhaps I'll take some leisure today. It's got to be golf, hasn't it? Football and Cricket are all about breaking down the class barriers, and we can't have that, can we? Besides, the teams are full of coloureds these days. At least the golf club keep the riff-raff out.
In the evenings, I dine heartily on boiled ham and potatoes, washed down with a lovely warm ale, followed by a helping of suet pudding. Then the whole family assemble round the wireless to listen to more brass band music, and talk about the Queen until our ****ing jaws drop off."
I do apologise. I genuinely tried to make that funny but writing it was like spending a million years in the 1950's. It was sucking the life out of me. Thank God we've got a cosmopolitan culture.
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Caligastia
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Sounds like this town has greater problems than race. Both sides seem to be blaming their problems on race though. When different racial groups live together is always an "us and them" mentality. I think the majority of people judge others as individuals without looking at their race, but there is always a small minority who do judge others based on their race. Unfortunately too much gets blamed on them.
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