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DinoDoc
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AECCP loves Democracy
Sep 1999
time: 23:19
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These comments are only in reference to North Korea:
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
2. "because they are developping WoMDs." |
Since the early 1990s, when its economy collapsed, the North Korea has pursued trade with such states as Angola, Burma, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, and Syria as a means of earning hard currency. Most of this trade involves arms, chemical and biological weapons materials, and even ballistic missile technology. Libya, for example, recently bought 50 Rodong-1 missiles from North Korea with a range of 1,000 kilometers.
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"because they train terrorists". If that's the criteria, many other nations should be added to the Axis of Evil, and Cuba and North Korea should be taken of it. |
They have also sold the weapons to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and the United Wa State Army. North Koreans have also been seen at terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. They also continue to harbor terrorists from the Japanese Red Army.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:19
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Ned: You still haven't answered why Cuba and North Korea are "evil". You are only explaining why the US doesn't like them, but that doesn't make them "evil". |
Saint Marcus, I have never been comfortable with Bush's choice of words since 9/11. "Evil" puts the whole question of "them" against "us" into a religious context. The mere fact that they, al Qaida, have declared war on us should be sufficient.
Adding states such as Iraq and Iran to the equation further amplifies a the first mistake because nations are not "evil." They may be enemies, but "evil" is simply not the right term. Ditto adding Cuba and NK to the "axis."
Another thing I didn't like was Bush labelling the 9/11 hijackers as "cowards." This really is not an apt desciption. Kamakazi is far more apt, but the choice of that term may have offended our current ally Japan. Clearly, the 9/11 bombers are the same, exactly the same, as the suicide bombers in Israel. They are religious fanatics who truly believe that what they do will grant them a place in paradise. This is exactly what the Pope told the Crusaders and the Japanese told the Kamikazi's. The Pope, the Japanese and the moslem religious leaders are all wrong. But are they "evil?"
No.
But even so, they are a threat, and must be taken seriously.
Ned
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ahenobarb
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Evil:
The people in the cellar were panicked. They had fled downstairs to escape the
bombardment, and it was difficult to abandon their shelter. Only splinters of light penetrated
the basement, but the dark provided a strange comfort. "We wanted to stay in hiding, even
though we were getting sick," Nasreen said. She felt a sharp pain in her eyes, like stabbing
needles. "My sister came close to my face and said, 'Your eyes are very red.' Then the
children started throwing up. They kept throwing up. They were in so much pain, and crying
so much. They were crying all the time. My mother was crying. Then the old people started
throwing up."
Chemical weapons had been dropped on Halabja by the Iraqi Air Force, which understood
that any underground shelter would become a gas chamber. "My uncle said we should go
outside," Nasreen said. "We knew there were chemicals in the air. We were getting red eyes,
and some of us had liquid coming out of them. We decided to run." Nasreen and he relatives
stepped outside gingerly. "Our cow was lying on its side," she recalled. "It was breathing
very fast, as if it had been running. The leaves were falling off the trees, even though it was
spring. The partridge was dead. There were smoke clouds around, clinging to the ground.
The gas was heavier than the air, and it was finding the wells and going down the wells."
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