09-05-2002 03:10									#31
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Admit it Glonky, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Welcome to the force son

	09-05-2002 03:12									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Admit it Glonky, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Welcome to the force son

I want a P4 the most, but the Athlon is definitely a good chip. It's just that the P4 is better.

	09-05-2002 03:12									#33
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Well I like both pc and macs. I use to have a mac, and had it for a long time. I never had any problems with it. Macs are ok if you dont play games that much and use it for word processing or going on the internet, but they tend to cost more than a pc. I read an article on gamespy, at least I think it was gamespy. Anyways it was talking about how apple use it ignore the gaming market, because the guy who started apple hated games, or something like that. Now they have changed theur view and are trying to get devolpers to make games for macs and they are trying to get their processors up to speed with the rest of them that are out there. I have a dell now and it is about a year old, when I got it was I could only get a 933 mghz processor, it was the fastest one the had at that time. I like it a lot too, and have not had any problems with it. One of the reasons I got a pc, instead of mac is that there is very little games for macs, while pc has tons and tons of games that you can buy.

	09-05-2002 03:15									#34
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Cooler than mine, huh? I have an eleven dimesional quantum matrix computer, with a multi time track 705 thz cpu, holographic displays, micro black hole heat sink, power adpater that runs off the vacuum energy, mind machine interface, and a cute little fuzzy decoration!
Top that!

	09-05-2002 03:16									#35
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I'd say you wouldn't have a computer after you turned it on, because your black hole heatsink ate it all up.

	09-05-2002 03:19									#36
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It's merely a micro black-hole, so minute that the computer would have to be switched on continuously for 2500 years for it to swallow the computer up.

	09-05-2002 03:21									#37
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Is that some of that alien technology the illuminati gets access to? Nice perk of the job eh

Are they up to 2.8GHz already? That jumped quickly!

	09-05-2002 03:22									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Are they up to 2.8GHz already? That jumped quickly!

Nah, the grey bars mean overclocked on that chart.
2.53GHz is the latest P4 release.

They're going to hit 3GHz by the end of this year, and an Intel executive has gone on the record of saying they plan to hit 10GHz by the end of 2003 (using the new 0.09 micron process, rather than Intel's current 0.13 and AMD's current 0.18).

	09-05-2002 03:24									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Maybe, but until fairly recently the mac os was better. I'd rather pick Windows PCs since the hardware was much better and cheaper.. and that is what counts.

I pick PC's now myself. Macs have gone in the wong direction for me.

	09-05-2002 03:29									#40
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Bot how much did it cost you Monolith?

Actually, how much do those damn things cost?

	09-05-2002 03:30									#41
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He said in his original post it cost him $1600US

	09-05-2002 03:33									#42
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F**k me sideways with a cucumber, that's a lot for something of that speed

	09-05-2002 04:18									#43
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Well, I just downloaded a demo of a game, Myth 3, and it ran pristinely, so whatever...

	09-05-2002 04:21									#44
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I can't wait till I see the marks for Unreal Tournament 2003 on the iMac. When it's getting ~60fps on the highest end of PCs in 1024x768, I'm sure it'd be unplayable on an iMac.

Same with DOOM3.

	09-05-2002 04:24									#45
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Well, I just downloaded a demo of a game, Myth 3, and it ran pristinely, so whatever...

Isn't that game like 3 years old?

	09-05-2002 04:25									#46
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But by then there'll be a new imac...

	09-05-2002 04:25									#47
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quote: But by then there'll be a new imac...

By next year? They are totally redoing it every year?

	09-05-2002 04:26									#48
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 But by then there'll be a new imac...

UT 2003 is due out in July, IIRC.

	09-05-2002 04:27									#49
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Whoops, I was wrong.
June 19th Unreal Tournament 2003 goes on sale.

	10-05-2002 04:40									#50
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Word is, Apple puts most of their R&D into short-term projects and other features that make Macs a "pleasure to use" , so the new Mac next year will be even farther behind.

	10-05-2002 11:37									#51
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Monolith94:

I, too, have an (older) iMac that I purchased in May 1999. It's a 333mhz machine that fulfills my needs more than adequately (which might not be too demanding, since I don't have this compulsion to keep up with the Joneses nor do I play much 3D gaming).

I'll probably acquire an 800mhz iMac sometime before fall. And a printer, some software and (maybe) scanner ... so the whole package will probably total $2100 to $2200 (shipping and miscellaneous expenses will be extra).

Here's to hoping you never have a kernal panic.

Gatekeeper (a soldier of the Apple Nation )

	10-05-2002 11:39									#52
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quote: I'll probably acquire an 800mhz iMac sometime before fall. And a printer, some software and (maybe) scanner ... so the whole package will probably total $2100 to $2200 (shipping and miscellaneous expenses will be extra).

OUCH! That's ****ing expensive for an 800mhz!!

	10-05-2002 11:55									#53
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Shi!te, I can buy a 1800mhz athalon in NZ dollars for that

	10-05-2002 12:23									#54
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I could have mailed you a 2.2G P4 Asher. According to your chart that's what you should have bought.

Of course, it would have cost more than your mother board and CPU combined.

	10-05-2002 12:49									#55
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I love Macintoshes! They're so much friendlier than PCs.

* Mr. President burns picture of Bill Gates

	10-05-2002 12:57									#56
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Imran:

It's my understanding that Apple calculates their speed differently from PC companies. RISC vs. CISC or something like that. All I know is that an 800mhz machine would be more than sufficient to handle anything I could throw at it. Besides, isn't it common knowledge that you get what you paid for? I think a $600 PC machine (particularly a Gateway) might be a bit, eh, cheap on the inside.

Gatekeeper

	10-05-2002 13:12									#57
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They are very similar, GK... 800mhz isn't anything like a 1Ghtz P3... and since you said the 333 mhz was adequate, if you going to drop that much cash, get some quality!! Like a PC.

I mean, for that much money you can get a PC with 2.0 Ghtz chip!! About twice as fast.

	10-05-2002 13:27									#58
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Dollar for dollar, PC is more for less.

However, the deciding factor for anyone's purchase should be what they will be happy with. Prejudices are a large part of what make people happy.

	10-05-2002 15:15									#59
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Well paying that much for such sh*te performance is ridiculous. The dinosaur should die!

	10-05-2002 15:54									#60
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Bah... here I'm stranded with an AMD k6-2 of 500 MHz without the money (or will?) to buy a new one... Heck, it's even so unreliable it can't do a kernel compile without crashing gcc... Maybe some of you would like to switch an "old" 1GHz CPU+mobo of any kind with this C64 of mine that already has antique value ...