28-07-2002 12:26									#31
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Hey History Guy. Why has thou forsaken us over in the Demo game?

We weep for your benevolent attention.

	28-07-2002 18:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Hey! Wait! Look closely at the image on this link: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3imag...ie/screen17.jpg It seems to be a different pic of Genghis, one not on the Compilation! In fact, it looks to be the REAL Ancient Genghis. Look at the fury shirt, and the necklace, shoulders, etc. It's not the same pic as is shown for the Ancient Genghis on the Compilation. This must be the genuine Ancient Genghis!

so "our" ancient Genghis is really the medieval Genghis then?

	28-07-2002 19:15									#33
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Notyeeither-- I haven't. I've been on vacation. I'm back, and preparing to do some work as co-historian.

Gangerwolf-- Verily. Or so it appears.

	29-07-2002 22:55									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Trip In the Infogrames press release, it says there will be the leader "King Brennus" (who was Celtic), and there's a nice artistic picture of an ancient Korean gunpowder unit as well.

I was just wondering, who's to say the Hwacha isn't the Mongol unit? Historically, I don't think they conquered the Koreans but that hasn't stopped Firaxis before.

What would be the best UU for the Mongols? There's already a horseman.

	29-07-2002 23:23									#35
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Their unit has been shown before in the first batch of screens; I believe it's the Keshik, an upgraded horseman.

	29-07-2002 23:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Andrew_Jay Isn't it also quite likely that the unit in the new PtW screenshot is merely one of the Ottoman's/Turks great leaders? Not necessarily THE leader.

The unit called 'Sultan Osman' in the new PtW screenshot has A/D/M stats of 1/1/2, whereas the 'leaders' in v1.29 have 0/0/3.

	30-07-2002 01:02									#37
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I just noticed that myself but couldn't post as I was at work. I just saw a unit that looked just like a great leader (i.e. a leader created through an elite victory. That's what I meant History Guy) but now I see, as you've pointed out, that they have 2 movement, and an actual attack and defense; which means that the unit must be the regicide unit. I was hoping for new units, not just re-used great leaders. Though perhaps in this case the Ottoman Sultan just appears to look like the ancient age great leader. Either that or it's the Ottoman UU

	31-07-2002 23:51									#38
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I think the Arab leader will be Saladin.

	07-08-2002 08:44									#39
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*update*

Added Brennus' ancient pic.

Wouldn't you know it, my guesses for the 8 civs were right the 1st time!

Also made some changes to the mysterious ottoman/arab leader's entry.

	07-08-2002 09:06									#40
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Well done as always Ix, we all appreciate this handy dandy service of yours.

	07-08-2002 20:00									#41
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Wow! Brennus looks really neat, I must say. I tell ya what...he's the first guy I'm playing when this game comes out!

	07-08-2002 20:07									#42
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Oh, and by the way, Ixnay, not to criticise at all (this is excellent work), but you still have the Medieval Genghis in Ancient Genghis's place, and Ancient Genghis ain't even up there. Keep up the good work!

	07-08-2002 23:36									#43
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Thanks; I must have missed your earlier post. So, I added ancient Genghis, moved his large pic to medieval, and adjusted the contrast/size of his other pics so they look better.

	08-08-2002 19:31									#44
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Looks splendid, Ixnay. So now we've got everything of Isabela and Genghis Khan Temujin (as I think the way they will do it is to have Genghis Khan his title and Temujin his name, as would be correct), if some of the pictures are a bit hazy.

Brennus...everybody says he looks scary, but I must remind them that here he is smiling at us, and looking nice. Wait till the ANGRY BRENNUS picture is released before you start screaming for mercy and hiding behind the couch in fear that the computer might come over there and smack your teeth with the keyboard!!

	30-08-2002 23:48									#45
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Big update today:

We now have everyone's name

We also have at least one picture of everyone (except Hannibal)

And that Arab/Ottoman leader debate has been solved.

Wang Kon looks really freaky, but we can save that for another thread.

	01-09-2002 03:57									#46
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Added higher quality ancient Genghis pic from latest screens.

	01-09-2002 05:02									#47
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Those bug eyes of Isabella are freaky enough.

	01-09-2002 06:41									#48
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Ixnay--

Now, we have to badger Firaxis for a picture of Hannibal Barca!!

	01-09-2002 09:06									#49
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I was right about the picture being of Osman!

	01-09-2002 11:30									#50
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Poor Ghengis, Firaxis has turned him into an Ancient drag queen.

I can't imagine what his defeated screen looks like.

	02-09-2002 05:45									#51
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I checked the screenshots and Abu Bakr, an early caliph, is the Arab leader.

	02-09-2002 05:56									#52
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Yes, I added him a few days ago.

	02-09-2002 07:59									#53
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Odin-- Ummm...yes. Not only was Abu Bakr an early caliph, he was the first, and in his two year reign he conquered the whole of Arabia. He was Muhammad's right-hand man, and the father of Muhammad's six-year old wife...hmmm...

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	02-09-2002 18:54									#54
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History Guy; are you saying some guy had an affair with the wife of Allah's prophet?

	02-09-2002 20:48									#55
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No, darn it. I meant to say "six-year old wife"...

...Now I'm probably on some hit list...

	02-09-2002 20:50									#56
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In essence, what I meant was that Abu Bakr was Muhammad's father-in-law, and his six-year old daughter was Muhammad's wife...

	02-09-2002 23:04									#57
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So the founder of Islam was a sicko?

	02-09-2002 23:08									#58
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Something like that. But save it for another thread!

	02-09-2002 23:23									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf So the founder of Islam was a sicko?

Different time & a different moral code. That, & he proboly didn't have sex with her until she was older.

	03-09-2002 03:52									#60
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Darkworld Ark--

You are quite incorrect. At the time, Muhammad marrying a six year old was considered quite scandalous, but the prophet said that Allah had allowed him the privaledge to marry this...kid. I suppose someone as devoted as Abu Bakr wouldn't have argued.

Ixnay--

Whoops...sorry, guy.