02-06-2002 00:54									#211
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Slovenia will kick your ass

	02-06-2002 01:03									#212
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Ah, how could I miss Spain's first match?

England are up to bat as well. or depending on the result.

Spain better win 3:1, all Spain's goals by Raul, or I will be upset with them

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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin England are up to bat as well. or depending on the result. Spain better win 3:1, all Spain's goals by Raul, or I will be upset with them

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Slovenia will win 1:0 and |Spain won't be able to penetrate Slovenian @iron@ defence

	02-06-2002 01:11									#214
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And as I look at this replay Germans could have won 15:0 and had the first goal dissalowed... 8:0 lucky Saudis...

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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Spain better win 3:1, all Spain's goals by Raul, or I will be upset with them

Don't overlook Tristán goalscoring chances... Barthez knows him already!

	02-06-2002 01:45									#216
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Raul is my golden boot bet, so everyone should set him up for goals, even the oppositions' defence.

	02-06-2002 02:05									#217
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quote: Mark, I had already changed those predictions for you.

You're the man.


BTW, can someone tell me why we allow teams like Saudi Arabia to compete? I know the FIFA gets off watching pathetic little nations play in the world cup alongside the big boys, but it is kinda pointless.

And I know Holland is rather crappy, but we would never have lost 8-0 to Germany!

	02-06-2002 02:15									#218
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new predictions :

E 06-06 11:00 Cameroon - Saudi Arabia (Saitama) 5-0
E 11-06 13:30 Saudi Arabia - Republic of Ireland (Yokohama) 0-4

	02-06-2002 02:18									#219
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Like I said before, Saudi Arabia have a bit of history. Remember when they got to the second round, with that Owairan goal against Belgium?

It seems that everybody is questioning their right to be there, just because they had an awful match. If it was a European country no-one would have even thought of reducing the number of European nations because of it.

	02-06-2002 02:21									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Raul is my golden boot bet, so everyone should set him up for goals, even the oppositions' defence.

Yes, that notoriously slipshod Slovenian defence.

Why did you pick Raul, who likes to play deep? That is like picking...er...Henry over Trezeguet. OK, that wasn't the best axample.

	02-06-2002 02:31									#221
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He has scored ~25 goals in ~50 internationals. That's a good record for a Spaniard.

	02-06-2002 02:33									#222
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Not considering that they always thrash everybody in qualifying and foul it up at the tournaments.

	02-06-2002 02:35									#223
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I figure they are due for a bit of luck this time. Time will tell.

	02-06-2002 02:37									#224
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Tough group, though. Partaguay and Slovenia aren't teams to roll over.

	02-06-2002 02:49									#225
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quote: If it was a European country no-one would have even thought of reducing the number of European nations because of it.

1/10

A thing like this won't happen to a European nation in a world cup, since countries like San Marino and Malta never qualify.

Everyone who thinks it's good to have crappy nations playing the world cup has today seen why it doesn't work. This wasn't a world cup match, it was a training match. A joke, a farce. This is what you get FIFA. :

	02-06-2002 02:50									#226
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quote: Like I said before, Saudi Arabia have a bit of history.

So has North Korea. They've reached the quarter finals in the past.

But you don't want them competing anno 2002, now do you?

	02-06-2002 02:51									#227
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Ireland looked good, and they werent playing the Saudis. I'd say its the best from them I've seen at a WC since 82 in Spain. Cameroon were no slouches. They're very dangerous, if they had a on-field leader they'd be contenders I think.

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And to those who think that matches like this just "happen" from time to time, need to look in the history books. It's the biggest win by a single team in 28 years. Almost 3 friggin decades without crap like this. Of course, that was all before the FIFA wanted to be PC by letting pathetic countries playing in the biggest sporting event in the world. Now see what happends.

	02-06-2002 03:08									#229
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I think you'll that these 'crappy teams' often cause upsets (c.f. Saudi Arabia vs Belgium, Denmark winning the European Championships, Costa Rica beating Scotland). I bet you're for the formation of a European Super League for clubs, too, so that Gronigen win against Feyenoord can't be repeated.

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Plus, this hasn't been the biggest win by a single team in 28 years...

	02-06-2002 03:33									#231
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quote: I think you'll that these 'crappy teams' often cause upsets (c.f. Saudi Arabia vs Belgium, Denmark winning the European Championships, Costa Rica beating Scotland).

some "upset" this game was.

and a small number of weaker teams in the world cup is all fine by me. But do we really need AND Costa Rica AND China AND Saudi Arabia AND Tunesia AND usa AND South Africa etc, etc, etc

quote: Plus, this hasn't been the biggest win by a single team in 28 years...

Biggest world cup win in 28 years. The last time a score like this came up was in 1974.

quote: I bet you're for the formation of a European Super League for clubs, too, so that Gronigen win against Feyenoord can't be repeated.

Yes I am. I'd rather see PSV, Feyenoord and Ajax play against Arsenal and Barcelona than against Volendam and Groningen.

	02-06-2002 03:36									#232
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Biggest world cup win in 28 years. The last time a score like this came up was in 1974.

That's pretty much incorrect, sire.

	02-06-2002 03:37									#233
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quote: Originally posted by Winston World Champion: Brazil Top scorer: Batistuta

Will Batty-Boy get played?

Crespo will score more, but considering the Argies wont reach round 2, they will need to score 10 against Nigeria to get a top scorer...

	02-06-2002 03:38									#234
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So how do you pick which team will cause the upset beforehand, eh? How do you know that you won't pick a team that plays like the Saudis did today?

quote: Yes I am. I'd rather see PSV, Feyenoord and Ajax play against Arsenal and Barcelona than against Volendam and Groningen.

You would have denied Chievo, Bolton, and Lille their shots at glory for some league that would be far less passionate and exciting. Bleurgh.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII I think you'll that these 'crappy teams' often cause upsets..............Denmark winning the European Championships

Denmark winning the EC was only an upset to those who discounted how good the Laudrups were when they were on-game, and they were.

	02-06-2002 04:17									#236
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Michael Laudrup didn't play on the winning Danish team in 1992. Denmark deserved to win, but we were still extremely lucky.

	02-06-2002 04:29									#237
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Lucky, sure, Denmark had an up and down team. I can see them as underdogs going in to the EC but they were up and they deserved to win.

EDIT: Dont forget that was the same team that destroyed the Swedes 6-0 (or so) and also beat the Brazilians ( I think) in Copenhagen.

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	02-06-2002 04:32									#238
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quote: Originally posted by Monk Michael Laudrup didn't play on the winning Danish team in 1992. Denmark deserved to win, but we were still extremely lucky.

So is everyone when they win... luck is compulsory for winners

	02-06-2002 04:46									#239
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And tommorrow (tonight) England will destroy Svenskarna 4:1.

	02-06-2002 11:50									#240
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