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Sorry guys it is a M-2/3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle. I have a nice picture to show you but I can not upload it to the forum. (I don't know how) I have a scanner and tried and tried but no luck. The give away is the two vents on the front of the vehicle. The Soviets BMP has one very large vent on the front of the vehicle. Lawrence I would agree w/you, it does indeed look very much like one of the French Hotchkiss designs.
The Transport Ship is an LCM type. They can cross the Ocean if neccessary.
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[This message has been edited by joseph1944 (edited April 29, 2001).]
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A more thorough look on the other screenshots reveals the following:
a) My "camel" unit is a worker unit, quite definately. It's very frequent.
b) The "longship" is not viking-specific. My new guess is it's a trireme.
c) The character with the skull mask (mystery1) occurs in a screenshot with a civ that has a city called "Ecatepec", today a city in Mexico. This leads me to assume it's Aztec special unit.
d) There is a unit being built in several towns in different screenshots called "spearmen". Also, in the same timeframe a newly built unit of what I thought was a "guard" is in another of the cities. Therefore, I assume that there is a new spearman unit that would be placed between the warrior and the phalanx, and that the "guard" (who does look a bit like the Civ2 warrior) is that unit. In the "washington" screenshot (the one off the website), you can see the heads of the fortified units behind the city graphic, and this unit seems to be fortified in many of them, of different civilisations no less. Therefore it is a common defensive unit, and I'm sure it is the elusive spearman.
edit: e) The one I thought was an english special unit appears in a greek city (assuming Hieraconpolis is greek) on the Detroit screenshot. This would probably not make it an english special unit, but it still looks like robin hood! New guess: it's an archer. The other unit which looks like an archer is the english special unit (longbow archer or whatever).
[This message has been edited by Ceci n'est pas Snapcase (edited April 30, 2001).]
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Could it be, if we have so many special units, that the Phalanx is simply the Greek special unit?
The aztec unit is a jaguar-warrior, that seems obvious.
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vonManstein
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London, Ontario, Canada
Feb 2001
time: 00:12
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quote:
Originally posted by BeBro on 04-29-2001 07:26 AM
Just to debate a bit... 
vonManstein, I disagree, the Tiger and TigerII had a bigger turret and a longer gun. They as well as the Panther were not as tall as the vehicleion the pic. Compared with the so called Panzer Tank above the vehicle canīt be one of the tanks you mentioned (a Panther or Tiger was at least as broad as the Panzer Tank (if it is a P III or P IV )
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Ahhhhhhhhhh darn.
The picture doesn't display any more.
I now doubt it is a Tiger. A Panther I don't think it is as well, due to the turret. What I think it might have been was the Tiger II with the Krupp turret. The Tiger II's turret in proportion it it's chassis wasn't that large. Of course, I'm just going from memory, since those pics won't show now.
I think the difference between the generic Panzer tank and the Tiger II is that it would represent a Heavy Tank class in the same time period of the generic Panzer. That way we could progress through time without there being a large leap from a medium Panzer tank to a M1 Abrams.
Although that begs the question, what mark Panzer tank does "Panzer tank" represent? It appears to be a Pz. IV with the short 75mm gun (so it could be an A to F1 mark).
Oh well, not like it really matters, we're playing Civ3, not Panzer Commander or Panzer Elite or West Front or Combat Mission or etc. etc.
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Leonidas
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My first impression of that lower left armoured vehicle is that it is a Bradly fighting vehicle. Also, it might, and I say, might represent a generic Sherman tank, although, its design would be a bit off.
We are dealing with an artist's conception here, at an early stage in the game, so it might change in time to truly resemble what it actually is.
Nice work Snapcase
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
time: 05:12
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Just to make sure for those who haven't read a reaction I gave on someone who asked what panzer means, the first time some of these pictures were shown on the FIRAXIS-site.
Saying panzer-tank somehow is a pleonasm, it would mean tank-tank. Panzer (=pantser in dutch) in german means armour. The official designation for a tank in german was/is Panzerkampfwagen (Pzkw), meaning "armoured battlecar". Usually the germans use(d) just the word panzer when they talk(ed) about tanks. It's not somesort of animal.
The last three types of Pzkw's (P-IV, V, VI) had names: Panther; Tiger; and Königstiger (kingstiger) (the ö is not a vowel which is known to anglo, but the i in tiger is to be pronounced as ee in sheet or fleet).
[This message has been edited by Vrank Prins (edited May 02, 2001).]
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Youngsun
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Darwin,NT,Australia
Jan 2000
time: 05:12
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I know what you mean but the tank is surely ugly.
[This message has been edited by Youngsun (edited May 03, 2001).]
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